Pegna Projects

[hesham]

Hi,


we displayed before Pegna Rondine,here is anther version and also Pegnma Rondone.


Aerfan 2/1980


Edit : Split because obviously wrong in the Prgan/Piaggio seaplane thread

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is a Pegna-Rodine light aircraft.


http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/libri/PDF_Libri_By_AVIA/Aeronautica%20-%20L'Aviazione%20nell'Auto%20Italiana.pdf

 

[hesham]

From Aerofan magazine;

 

[hesham]

From Aeronautica Itlaliana 1923,


here is a Pegna P.B.N.2 biplane four engined bomber project.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

here is the P.R.B. flying boat,designed by Giovanni Pegna, Giuseppe Rossi and Filippo Bastianelli,
powered by four 300 hp Fiat A.12bis engines.

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/flyboat/prb.html

 

[hesham]

Hi,

here is a Pegna helicopter Project of 1923

http://www.archivi.beniculturali.it/dga/uploads/documents/PIA/5225af74721dc.pdf

 

[hesham]

From Aeronautica Itlaliana 1923,


here is a Pegna P.B.N.2 biplane four engined bomber project.

The Pegna P.B.N.;

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala%20d'Italia/L'ALA%20D'ITALIA%201924%2007.pdf

 

[hesham]

here is the P.R.B. flying boat,designed by Giovanni Pegna, Giuseppe Rossi and Filippo Bastianelli,
powered by four 300 hp Fiat A.12bis engines.

Hi,

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala%20d'Italia/L'ALA%20D'ITALIA%201933%2009.pdf

 

[hesham]

Hi,

in 1917,Mr. Pegna had designed a high altitude seaplane Project,does anyone
hear about it ?.

 

[Avimimus]

Hi,

here is a Pegna helicopter Project of 1923

http://www.archivi.beniculturali.it/dga/uploads/documents/PIA/5225af74721dc.pdf

Can anyone find more information about this Pegna-Bonmartini “Elicottero”? I'm having trouble even making out the dimensions form that scan.

If my reading of the pdf is correct it was meant to be able to alight on water. If this is the case - I assume that the two larger side mounted propellers couldn't be angled. So, my assumption is that all four of the larger propellers were fixed and manoeuvring would be done with the tail rotor and the two miniature side propellers. Does this seem correct?

Once I figure out the dimensions I'll be able to confirm if this was a single-engine design. It'd be fascinating to learn more about the transmission (or the overall estimated weight etc.)

 

[Schneiderman]

Length looks like 10.6 m, which would be about right for the size of the cockpit openings

 

[hesham]

From Aerei Italiani 1914-1918,

old Pegna airplanes.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

Pegna I : was a seaplane Project of 1913
Pegna II : was also a seaplane Project of 1913
Pegna III : was a seaplane Project of 1915
Pegna IV : was a four-engined landplane Project of 1915
Pegna V : was also a four engined landplane Project of 1915

 

[hesham]

Pegna I : was a seaplane Project of 1913
Pegna II : was also a seaplane Project of 1913
Pegna III : was a seaplane Project of 1915
Pegna IV : was a four-engined landplane Project of 1915
Pegna V : was also a four engined landplane Project of 1915

Also Pegna had a Project for 16 engines transatlantic commercial biplane flying boat
of 1923,powered by sixteen Fiat A.12bis engines.

 

[hesham]

From Aeronautica Itlaliana 1923,


here is a Pegna P.B.N.2 biplane four engined bomber project.

This airplane was a high altitude bomber Project,estimated to reach service ceiling of
8000m.

 

[hesham]

in 1917,Mr. Pegna had designed a high altitude seaplane Project,does anyone
hear about it ?.

Maybe it was Pegna VII ?.

 

[hesham]

From L'Aeronautique 1923.

 

[hesham]

From Aerea 6/1924,

the Piaggio-Pegna B.N.2 Night bomber was powered by four 200 hp engines.

 

[Maveric]

Pegna Rondine was Piaggio P.1?

 

[Apophenia]

Pegna Rondine was Piaggio P.1?

Sources vary, Mav. Some say that the Piaggion P.1 was to be based upon the 2-seat Rondone. Wikipedia quotes the following source:
Luigi Mancini, Grande enciclopedia aeronautica. Ed. "Aeronautica" – Milano, 1936. E. F. XIV p. 386-7.

A more recent source is Guiseppe Ciampaglia's Gli aerei e i motori della Compagnia Nazionale Aeronautica di Giovanni Bonmartini (IBN, 2012, page 64), which says:

Malgrado la sua semplicita ed il basso costo, la richiesta di macchine acree private da turismo era allora quasi del tutto inesistente e anche dop che fu ceduto all Piaggio, dove il Rondine fu risiglato Piaggio P.1, nessuno di questo acroplani di serie fu mai completato e venduto.

Or ... "Despite its simplicity and low cost, the demand for small private touring aircraft at that time was virtually non-existent. Even after the the Rondine was sold to Piaggio - as the Piaggio P.1 - no series 'acroplane' of this type was ever completed or sold. "

 

[Maveric]

Many thanks Apophenia,
is a picture, a three-sided plan and / or technical data available?

 

[Apophenia]

Many thanks Apophenia,
is a picture, a three-sided plan and / or technical data available?

Not that I know off ... but that would answer the question once and for all. Maybe Piaggio was shopping around both Pegna-Bonmartini variants as his potential P.1 to test the market waters? That would explain the on-going Rodine or Rondone confusion.

 

[!Mark]

Hello, I found this in a 1934 article written by Pegna, on the subject of high speed aircraft, in "L'Ala d'Italia" magazine.
It's a proposed "high speed, catapult launched, jet seaplane", even if it's just a sketch.
The whole article talks about how seaplanes are better suited for high speed with fewer mechanical complications, compared to land based planes.

Another example of Pegna's genius

(P.S. this is my first post, I hope I posted in the right place)

 

[hesham]

Welcome aboard Mark,

and I spoke before about it,here;

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/pegna-and-piaggio-italian-floatplane-seaplane-projects-schneider-trophy.13401/#post-295142

 

[!Mark]

oh, nevermind then, thanks for the link tho, I never read that thread

 

[hesham]

oh, nevermind then, thanks for the link tho, I never read that thread

No problem Mark,please continue send any thing new.

 

[!Mark]

I'll try but you guys have already found everything

 

[hesham]

From Wikipedia,

Giovanni Pegna - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org