North American XSM-64 Navaho

[Orionblamblam]

Available here:

http://www.up-ship.com/drawndoc/drawndocair.htm

This includes a very large drawings of the missile and booster meant specifically for model makers; Standard Aircraft/Missile Characteristics of two early variants; rare drawings of the 1949 over/under ramjet version; a few other drawings and 49 photos of the Navaho on display near Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

 

[sferrin]

Available here:

http://www.up-ship.com/drawndoc/drawndocair.htm

This includes a very large drawings of the missile and booster meant specifically for model makers; Standard Aircraft/Missile Characteristics of two early variants; rare drawings of the 1949 over/under ramjet version; a few other drawings and 49 photos of the Navaho on display near Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

Any chance you might offer all of your Pluto/SLAM stuff?

 

[Orionblamblam]

Eventually, yes. Scanning a boatload more Dyna Soar stuff now. The trick is in finding things to sell that won't get corporations ticked off at me.

 

[flateric]

XSM-64A wind tunnel model drawings and photos found at NTRS

keyword, as you can assume, 'navaho'

 

[Grif]

OrionBlamBlam, does this include stuff about the "Nuclear-powered V2"?
Grif

 

[airrocket]

Flateric thanks soooooooooooo much for those ram-jet diagrams. Dimensions.....Yes!!!!!

 

[sferrin]

 

[hesham]

Hi,


does anyone know this Boeing experimental ramjet missile,which related
to NATIV ?.


http://www.boeingimages.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&VBID=2JRSN2PXSFBD&SMLS=1&RW=1152&RH=720

 

[Orionblamblam]

It an early design for the North American Aviation's Navaho missile, and was described as such at the link. And it not only wasn't hypersonic, it wasn't *described* as hypersonic, so I don't know why this thread is titled that.

 

[hesham]

Oh sorry for that my dear Scott,


I use Google for search about Hypersonic missile,and I switched the title,I will fix it.

 

[hesham]

Old Info From Internet,

there was an attempt to make a manned interceptor version of Navaho ?,
of course I am not sure.

 

[hesham]

From Krila 6/1956,

I know most of NAA SM-64 Navaho shapes,but what was this ?.

 

[starviking]

The first picture’s carrier resembles the upper stages of Von Braun’s early 3-stage shuttle (of “Conquest of Space” fame).

Beyond that, I cannot say much.

 

[RanulfC]

From Krila 6/1956,

I know most of NAA SM-64 Navaho shapes,but what was this ?.

Looks to be the "NAVAHO III 1949" listed in the illustration to the right. If you blow up the one to the left it's two vehicles with both having canards and aft lifting wings, the upper body looks to have a 'ramjet' spike nose while the forward canards are 'straight' and the aft wings trapizodal in most other details they seem similar enough to be the same concept. The wings and canards on the 'booster' appear to be much larger than needed but in general seem to be similar to the Navaho III concept.
(Though the presence of what appears to be "windows" in the 'booster' unit is odd)

Randy

 

[JimK]

I think you might be right in identifying it as Navaho III. It looks like a wind-tunnel model to investigate the longitudinal placement of the missile on the booster. What appear to be portholes may be the screw locations attaching the wing and canard to the fuselages.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Hi,


does anyone know this Boeing experimental ramjet missile,which related
to NATIV ?.


http://www.boeingimages.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&VBID=2JRSN2PXSFBD&SMLS=1&RW=1152&RH=720

It was an early research project by North American (NATIV stood for North American Test Instrumentation Vehicle) and was to gather data on supersonic flight as well as prove methods to get and record data from missile tests. North American had the bad luck to use Wasserfall as the design basis for NATIV. Of six known launches only one was successful. The project lasted about a year or so.

As for the picture...

I suspect, but can't say for sure, that it is an early proposed version of the BOMARC missile. It wouldn't be related to NATIV however, and is more likely to be related as a follow-on to Boeing's GAPA SAM missile.

 

[KJ_Lesnick]

You know I've seen the drawing that was listed as the Navajo G-38 here. Was this the design they ultimately intended, or merely one of many designs conceptualized?

 

[aim9xray]

Yes, the G-38 Navajo appears to have been the ultimate "end state" of development.

 

[klem]

A picture of NA-704 Mockup.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

With huge thanks to Gerald Balzer yet again, behold more from the development of the NAA Navaho...

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[publiusr]

Back on display after the hurricane damage?

 

[Deleted member 2278]

MX-770 (X-10) testing:

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20050029470/downloads/20050029470.pdf

 

[The K2]

In case anyone is interested, the engineering model for the Navaho is at the Planes of Fame Air Museum at Chino Airport. While I took a lot of photos (which are filed away) the model is currently not on display. It is in storage and would be brought out again at a later date. The museum’s founder, Ed Maloney, told me this before he passed away. This photo was found on the Up Ship site.

 

[Grey Havoc]

More modest (and realistic) proposals for lunar missions, which could be flown in the near term using available technology, were studied by a wide range of groups. In the two years leading up to the launch of Sputnik and the beginning of the Space Age, serious proposals included one by Aerojet Corporation (which today is part of Aerojet Rocketdyne) to use a five-stage version of its Aerobee sounding rocket to send a probe to the Moon as well as Ford’s Aeronutronic division using a lash up of the Vanguard and X-17 rockets, Martin (which today is part of the aerospace giant Lockheed Martin) using their Titan ICBM then under development, and the USAF employing the rocket booster of the Navaho cruise missile (then the largest American rocket to fly) combined with the Redstone and solid upper stages. The RAND Corporation proposed a lunar impactor launched using a version of the Atlas ICBM and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology studied recoverable lunar probes.

 

[flateric]

Project MX-770 News Report No. 9 : United States. Air Force : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Summary: Coverage and explanation of the following phases of the Nativ and the Navaho missiles: Preliminary analysis, aerodynamics, airframe, guidance, and...

archive.org

 

[flateric]

NAVAHO MISSILE : NASA/Glenn Research Center : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

NAVAHO MISSILE

archive.org

 

[NMaude]

Project MX-770 News Report No. 9 : United States. Air Force : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Summary: Coverage and explanation of the following phases of the Nativ and the Navaho missiles: Preliminary analysis, aerodynamics, airframe, guidance, and...

archive.org

I do believe that video has been available on YT for years now, I'd love to see the other reports.

 

[klem]

...

 

[TJDougherty01]

For any Navaho missile fans out there, two part article by Tony Landis Posted on the US Air Force Material Command site:

Flashback: Navaho Missile Pert 1
Flashback: The Navaho Missile Part 2

 

[publiusr]

That and Nike-Hercules were my two favorite designs

 

[TJDougherty01]

That and Nike-Hercules were my two favorite designs

Nahhh. Bomarc. Rocket (Bomarc A- hypergolic liquid fuel; Bomarc B, solid fuel) for liftoff and get up to speed, then two Marquardt ramjets to power to the targets. Controlled by SAGE. I lived within 20 miles of the big Bomarc base at McGuire AFB (actually it is much closer to Lakehurst NAS, but controlled by McGuire). I also lived about 3 miles from a Nike site (Ajax only). The Hercules had about a 90 mile (150 Km) range whereas Bomarc had roughly 4 x that range. In either case, shortly after the missiles became operational, the first Corona satellites found that the Russians had not built a large number of manned bombers, and few of their bombers had the range necessary to reach the US from Russia.

The New Jersey site had both Bomarc A and B missiles, and the hangers and buildings still exist. One of the A missiles caught fire in June 1960, and melted the plutonium. Minimal remediation was done. Extensive remediation after leaching of plutonium into groundwater occurred in the early 2000's. As a result, the site with hangers was left largely untouched once the missiles were removed. Lots of overgrowth of vegetation,though.

I've also attached two photos of the site. One taken just after the missile fire (hanger at bottom, center left) and one with the hangers open and the missiles erected. Hanger roofs slid to the side.

Here is a link to the site:
NJ Bomarc site

Location near Lakehurst & Base Layout:

 

[NMaude]

Bomarc A- hypergolic liquid fuel

Actually hypergolic liquid oxidiser, it used RFNA.

 

[NMaude]

What was the video about, sferrin? Maybe I could a new version of it on YT if I knew what it was about.

 

[sferrin]

What was the video about, sferrin? Maybe I could a new version of it on YT if I knew what it was about.

No idea. (It was 11 years ago. ) I hate when accounts go offline like that. I'd posted a video with Nike Zeus A in it years ago, it disappeared like the above, and I spent hours over a couple weeks looking for it. I figured I had to have saved it but no luck.

 

[TJDougherty01]

Actually hypergolic liquid oxidiser, it used RFNA.

And liquid hydrazine as fuel. Since both of these are toxic chemicals, difficult to handle, the solid fuel B version was developed. Advances in solid fuel from the Polaris program increased the Specific Impulse.

In the New Jersey Bomarc incident, it was initially a helium tank in an A model that exploded, and you can imagine when the nitric acid and hydrazine mixed how bad it got.

 

[NMaude]

And liquid hydrazine as fuel.

I was under the impression that it used the same fuel that its' ramjets used.

 

[TJDougherty01]

Yep, you're right-JP-4. My bad. The ramjets used 80 octane gasoline.

 

[Grey Havoc]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9NiLWUV0UA

 

[TJDougherty01]

Good coverage of Navaho in that video from Tim.

I was surprised he didn't mention that an adaptation of the Navaho interval guidance system was used during the voyage under the North Pole by Nautilus. A further adaptation was for the Autonetics N6A Polaris Ship's Inertial Navigation System (SINS Mk. 2), which was more accurate than the MIT-Sperry system.

 

[xena]

A lot of technology out of Navaho was used for other applications. I think it was one of the most essential projects for aviation.