Mystery aircraft

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Does anybody know what this is?

 

[hesham]

It's Nieuport Ni.28,

Prints of Swiss Army Fliegerabteilung Nieuport 28 690

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[petebutt43@hotmail.com]

It's Nieuport Ni.28,

Prints of Swiss Army Fliegerabteilung Nieuport 28 690

Swiss Army Fliegerabteilung Nieuport 28 690. The Fligerabteilung operated 25 surplus Nieuport 28 fighters, acquired after World War One, until the mid 1930s. Date: 1935. Our beautiful Wall Art and Photo Gifts include Framed Prints, Photo Prints, Poster Prints, Canvas Prints, Jigsaw Puzzles...

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Nope. That is one of mine and there are so many differences it is not true. I don't know why Google lens links that to this image (which is also offered on prints-on-line).

 

[Justo Miranda]

Hanriot HD. 14, HD.15 or HD.28 experimental fitted with aircraft carrier landing gear

 

[Justo Miranda]

Such wing-separated ailerons were used in some stability competitions in the 1920s. and 1930's.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

It's Nieuport Ni.28,

Prints of Swiss Army Fliegerabteilung Nieuport 28 690

Swiss Army Fliegerabteilung Nieuport 28 690. The Fligerabteilung operated 25 surplus Nieuport 28 fighters, acquired after World War One, until the mid 1930s. Date: 1935. Our beautiful Wall Art and Photo Gifts include Framed Prints, Photo Prints, Poster Prints, Canvas Prints, Jigsaw Puzzles...

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Don't think so - rounded wing tips and lack of the between wings ailerons on the Ni28. Engine cowling is more blunt than the Ni28 as well.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[TomS]

Don't think so - rounded wing tips and lack of the between wings ailerons on the Ni28. Engine cowling is more blunt than the Ni28 as well.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Also the bracing seems very different.

 

[avion ancien]

Am I alone in having only the top half of the photograph attached to the initial post?

 

[Arjen]

Four wheeled landing gear it seems.
Square cut wing tips, unstaggered equal span biplane.
Rotary cowling early British?
This looks like a pre-WW1 aircraft to me.

 

[Stargazer]

Couldn't be any later than 1915 I think.
Possibly American (quality of the photo makes Russian impossible, and the house in the background doesn't look French or English to me, but of course I could be wrong).

 

[Arjen]

So far, I have only found the between-wings ailerons in one other aircraft, the 1909 Swiss Dufaux 4.

Dufaux 4 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Which is completely different.

 

[Justo Miranda]

Also the bracing seems very different.

Modified to support the ailerons

 

[Stargazer]

So far, I have only found the between-wings ailerons in one other aircraft, the 1909 Swiss Dufaux 4.
Which is completely different.

No, there were a few other manufacturers that experimented with them, such as Curtiss for instance, on his Model O.
I find the tail of the mystery aircraft also echoes that of the Curtiss, but the wings of course are different and not Curtiss-like at all.

 

[Justo Miranda]

Modified in Japan for aircraft carrier landing???

 

[Stargazer]

Modified in Japan for aircraft carrier landing???

I don't think so, since the engine and cowling also look different from the Model O.

 

[Justo Miranda]

I don't think so, since the engine and cowling also look different from the Model O.

At that time the cowling only served to retain the oil expelled by the rotary engine, it was easily damaged when the plane fell forward in the models in which the sky was removed and could have been replaced by another local manufacture.

 

[Aubi]

Let's break it down. Engine looks like Gnome 7 cylinder, maybe Omega. That would put this plane to the arlier part of 1910s. Wings also look quite boxy and oldschool. And three bays each? Very thin struts. I found similar wings on the Cody British Army Aeroplane (which is obviously a pusher).
Tail seems to be oval, more modern, or at least the moving parts are.
Undercarriage has two wheels in tandem on each side, with a short skid also on each side. There is a thin rod below the skids, but I did not see any hooks on them or anything similar so I doubt it's for carrier landing. More like the undercarriage is just overengineered.
And of course the ailerons. Is there anything I missed?

 

[hesham]

It's very similar to Fokker design,I searched in three book about it,but
no way ?!.

 

[Stargazer]

It's probably not related to our mystery aircraft (different engine, different empennage) but I found an American aircraft of the same era that share the same general wing configuration: it was built in 194 by Fred de Kor from Los Angeles, and was powered by an 80 hp Duplex Gyro engine.