Lockheed NF-104A

archipeppe

ACCESS: Top Secret
Joined
18 October 2007
Messages
2,372
Reaction score
2,765
At least the Starfighter found out its rocket engine...
 

Attachments

  • NF 104A_01.jpg
    NF 104A_01.jpg
    186.1 KB · Views: 840
  • NF 104A_02.jpg
    NF 104A_02.jpg
    202 KB · Views: 840
  • NF 104 cutaway_01.jpg
    NF 104 cutaway_01.jpg
    235.2 KB · Views: 789
  • NF 104 cutaway_0.jpg
    NF 104 cutaway_0.jpg
    256.6 KB · Views: 713
  • NF-104 flight profile.jpg
    NF-104 flight profile.jpg
    749.2 KB · Views: 655
Archipeppe,


You have done it again....beautiful work.


Now THAT is the way to fly...J79 plus rocket power. What a wonderful aircraft.
 
Awesome !

How did the F-104A go to 103 000 + ft did it also have rockets ?
 
topspeed3 said:
Awesome !

How did the F-104A go to 103 000 + ft did it also have rockets ?
Yes - one tail-mounted rocket motor - as the beautiful drawings above illustrate. -SP
 
Typo in the picture, the RCS also used H2O2, not "H2O4".
 
Just for the record, the RCAF took a totally stock F-104A over 100,000 feet in 1967. The aircraft never flew again after this flight, having exceeded many limits along the way (including reaching 1,800 mph in a dive before the zoom climb). See the story here. I also recall a USAF F-104C breaking 100,000 feet at Edwards.

I think the main intention of the NF-104A was not to just operate at higher altitude, but to train future space plane pilots in the use of things like rocket boosters and reaction controls.
 
Steve Pace said:
topspeed3 said:
Awesome !

How did the F-104A go to 103 000 + ft did it also have rockets ?
Yes - one tail-mounted rocket motor - as the beautiful drawings above illustrate. -SP

But that was not even invented when the flight took place ?
 
topspeed3 said:
Steve Pace said:
topspeed3 said:
Awesome !

How did the F-104A go to 103 000 + ft did it also have rockets ?
Yes - one tail-mounted rocket motor - as the beautiful drawings above illustrate. -SP

But that was not even invented when the flight took place ?
F-104s were able to reach 100,000 ft + without being equipped with the NF-104A's tail-mounted rocket motor. Bill Walker has already mentioned this, he also links to the story of a Canadian CF-104 that reached 100,110 ft.
Starting at an altitude of 45,000 feet, and flying along the jet stream, W/C White dove to about 32.000 feet to gain speed before he started the climb to his [Canadian] altitude record.
Your question:
"How did the F-104A go to 103 000 + ft did it also have rockets ?" - I take it you refer to this:
1959 December 14
First flight over 100.000 ft to 31,513 m (103,389 ft) world altitude record by Capt "Joe" B. Jordan in F-104C serial number 56-0885 at Edwards AFB.
Found here: http://www.916-starfighter.de/F-104_chronology.htm
Joe Jordan's F-104C s/n 56-0885 was not fitted with a rocket motor. As far as I know, NASA's NF-104As were the only rocket-equipped F-104s.

As Bill Walker has already stated:
Bill Walker said:
I think the main intention of the NF-104A was not to just operate at higher altitude, but to train future space plane pilots in the use of things like rocket boosters and reaction controls.
 

Similar threads

Please donate to support the forum.

Back
Top Bottom