Lockheed Model 30 canard bomber

[hesham]

Hi,

Anther unbuilt project for Lockheed from 1930s,designed
by C. L. Johnson.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=h45wAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1939&dq=%22CLARENCE+l.+JOHNSON%22&num=100#PPA1939,M1

 

[lark]

This should be the patent drawing of the Lockheed Model 30.
The designs shown reached the model stage.
The idea evolved into a single seat canard jetfighter
and a fighter variant with pusher prop.

source:'Lockheed' by Bill Yenne.Bison Book Corp.USA 1987

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear lark.

 

[Justo Miranda]

Hi,

Anther unbuilt project for Lockheed from 1930s,designed
by C. L. Johnson.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=h45wAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1939&dq=%22CLARENCE+l.+JOHNSON%22&num=100#PPA1939,M1

Additional drawings

 

[Pioneer]

The canard-design Model 30 looks impressive, and very advanced.
I would think that this on its own would have intimidated the USAAC high command?
Pity!
Its predicted speed would have been most welcome to its crews!

Regards
Pioneer

 

[Stargazer]

I believe this topic ought to be renamed, as it now covers more than the "trio"...

Here's a better copy of the Model 30 artwork by Robert Pike, from an old issue of Wings/Airpower:

 

[lark]

Stargazer,

Thanks for the Lockheed model 30 info.
Among the best I ever saw about this concept.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Source: Bill Slayton article in Dirty Plastic newsletter Fall 1983, IPMS Phoenix

 

[hesham]

Great find my dear Paul.

 

[Sundog]

Was this for a program or just an internal design study? I'm just curious because it reminds me of the North American Design (NA-48X?) which had a small crew number and pusher props on the wing, shaft driven by engines in the fuselage.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

It says in the Slayton article it was in response to a request for data (RFD) R-39-B(C-104) from USAAC.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Better copies of the patent drawings.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


I am confuse with this aircraft,the attack bomber competition to that period was Circa 38-385
of March 1938 and its requirement revised in April 1939,which was the tenders;


Bell Model-9,Boeing-Stearman Model X-100 (A-21),Douglas Model-7B (A-20),Martin-137 (XA-22),
North American NA-40.


But not in January 1939 ?.

 

[Vahe Demirjian]

There's another artist's conception of the Lockheed Model 30 at this link:

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/id-need.7529/

 

[publiusr]

Did anyone think to put radial engines inline, one in front of the other in a fuselage…perhaps allowing one to be worked on in flight? This design would lend itself to that. Tail gunner at the base of the tail with arrestor gear perhaps.

 

[iverson]

Did anyone think to put radial engines inline, one in front of the other in a fuselage…perhaps allowing one to be worked on in flight? This design would lend itself to that. Tail gunner at the base of the tail with arrestor gear perhaps.

I suspect that cooling would be a major problem.