Interesting sonic weapon used on Belgrade crowd.

Probably trying to make people think drones or cruise missiles are coming in.
 
Exactly, much more disgusting than batton rounds etc, perhaps we should be told?

Balance is difficult tbh, folk have a right to 'protest' but law and order are enshrined in our national boundries.

Directional speakers for use in overcrowded locales can be good but are difficult to focus for entertainment so unlikely to see those any time soon, unless you like to hear your music etc with your head rigidly in one place.

What is the answer to a crowd spurre on by agitating 'actors' on behalf of a nefarious bunch like the Kremlin folk?

Lots of choice out the but, which does least harm to your electorate?

My medical knowledge is that these 'sonic' control measures have an effect alike very severe vertigo, disorientation, nausea, headchae/migraine accompanied by visual disturbance.

Rubber bullets can kill more easily, imho, of course.
 
I think they are protesting against corruption in construction that directly led to 15 death at a train station.
Hardly an usual theme from Russia actors.

And your medical knowledge is off by a decade regarding sonic weapons induced health impact.
 
1. Are we absolutely sure this is a sonic weapon and not some form of microwave? Like a miniaturized ADS?
Due to the dangers of invisible radiation, particularly its accidental activation and being unaware it's on, I imagine a practical implementation of an ADS-like system would have either strong visual or auditory cues. Like adding odor to dangerous odorless gases.

2. People moved like they instantly noticed something but I didn't see people covering their ears.

3. Sound waves are not that directional. They disperse very quickly. Yet I could mostly hear people screaming/shouting, while the sound was weak and of fair quality (strong sound might have led to compressed audio recording in those videos).
 
Foo Fighter said:
What is the answer to a crowd spurre on by agitating 'actors' on behalf of a nefarious bunch like the Kremlin folk?
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The Belgrade protests are directed mainly at a decade of corruption.
www.bbc.com

Serbia's largest-ever rally sees 325,000 protest against government

The collapse of a station canopy that killed 15 people has galvanised anger towards the government.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
The current protests kicked off after the collapse of the recently renovated Novi Sad railway station, with 15 dead. The regime of president Vučić, in office since 2017, is held responsible by protesters for years of corruption.

I am not sure about any Kremlin involvement in the ongoing mass protests, the attitude of Vučić to Russia is ambiguous.
www.politico.eu

Aleksandar Vučić has a clear strategy in his geopolitical chess game

The Serbian leader has proved adept at balancing the West versus China and Russia.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu
 
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Big_Zukini said:
1. Are we absolutely sure this is a sonic weapon and not some form of microwave? Like a miniaturized ADS?
Due to the dangers of invisible radiation, particularly its accidental activation and being unaware it's on, I imagine a practical implementation of an ADS-like system would have either strong visual or auditory cues. Like adding odor to dangerous odorless gases.

2. People moved like they instantly noticed something but I didn't see people covering their ears.

3. Sound waves are not that directional. They disperse very quickly. Yet I could mostly hear people screaming/shouting, while the sound was weak and of fair quality (strong sound might have led to compressed audio recording in those videos).
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My thoughts exactly. Look up "Active Denial System" and I think you'll find the answer there.
 
Big_Zukini said:
1. Are we absolutely sure this is a sonic weapon and not some form of microwave? Like a miniaturized ADS?
Due to the dangers of invisible radiation, particularly its accidental activation and being unaware it's on, I imagine a practical implementation of an ADS-like system would have either strong visual or auditory cues. Like adding odor to dangerous odorless gases.

2. People moved like they instantly noticed something but I didn't see people covering their ears.

3. Sound waves are not that directional. They disperse very quickly. Yet I could mostly hear people screaming/shouting, while the sound was weak and of fair quality (strong sound might have led to compressed audio recording in those videos).
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Outside of a small cone, these things are inaudible. Effects would be of confusion, disorientation, nausea and a massive headache. Not much to do with hearing directly and being disoritented, covering ears would not happen as much as you think.
 
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That's the LRAD, not ADS, quite widely used by police agencies around the world, as well as vessels going through Cape of Horn
 
Big_Zukini said:
Sound waves are not that directional. They disperse very quickly.
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www.holosonics.com

Focused Audio Technology | Audio Spotlight by Holosonics

Holosonics Audio Spotlight® directional speakers deliver highly focused sound to any area, display, exhibit, or workstation while keeping the surrounding area quiet.
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Whaling ships have these shriekers that sound like what some women have in their purses to use against attackers—just louder.
www.wired.com

'The Scream': Israel Blasts Protesters With Sonic Gun

Flashlights with puke rays. Mobile microwave pain beams. The world of less-than-lethal weapons is filled with exotic and just plain weird devices to annoy and thwart enemies. Now, Israel’s throwing its hat in the ring with another, called “the Scream.” The Jerusalem Post reports that Israeli...
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I remember rumors of something called an “ellipton” but that may be mythical.

The most effective is basically a time-delay loudspeaker—where the protester hears his own words with a lag of a couple of seconds—as in post #11 above.

More:
singularityhub.com

Speech Jamming Gun From Japan Silences People From Up To 34 Meters Away

Usually when someone says they’re going to silence you with a gun, you should start worrying about bullet holes. Japan’s SpeechJammer gun, however, can keep you quiet without aerating your...
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Stutterer’s feedback.
 
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Arjen said:
The Belgrade protests are directed mainly at a decade of corruption.
www.bbc.com

Serbia's largest-ever rally sees 325,000 protest against government

The collapse of a station canopy that killed 15 people has galvanised anger towards the government.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
The current protests kicked off after the collapse of the recently renovated Novi Sad railway station, with 15 dead. The regime of president Vučić, in office since 2017, is held responsible by protesters for years of corruption.

I am not sure about any Kremlin involvement in the ongoing mass protests, the attitude of Vučić to Russia is ambiguous.
www.politico.eu

Aleksandar Vučić has a clear strategy in his geopolitical chess game

The Serbian leader has proved adept at balancing the West versus China and Russia.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu
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This tragedy was far more embarrassing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse

The Novi Sad canopy collapse occurred because of a poorly engineered and time expired concrete cantilever design. Basically, I'm not sure how you renovate such a peculiar reinforced concrete structure. Demolition was probably a better option than restoration. The original Tito era design fulfilled its design life but wasn't worthy of historical preservation.

The Florida tragedy was more inexcusable. The decision makers approved what was the longest ever post-stressed concrete span for a pedestrian bridge. When you're setting a record for such a mundane structure as a pedestrian bridge, you know the project has gone badly awry.
 
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publiusr said:
The most effective is basically a time-delay loudspeaker—where the protester hears his own words with a lag of a couple of seconds—as in post #11 above.

More:
singularityhub.com

Speech Jamming Gun From Japan Silences People From Up To 34 Meters Away

Usually when someone says they’re going to silence you with a gun, you should start worrying about bullet holes. Japan’s SpeechJammer gun, however, can keep you quiet without aerating your...
singularityhub.com singularityhub.com

Stutterer’s feedback.
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It's always fun to watch someone try to use the PA in our lab for the first time, there's a fair amount of delay and it definitely trips you up if you aren't ready for it haha.
 

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