HWK series AFVs

[smurf]

In "Encyclopedia of Tanks" by Crow and Icks, there are brief details of a series of AFVs on a common chassis. The picture is clearly of the small turret 20mm cannon version, though it is captioned by the arrow as having a 90mm recoilless rifle. Has anyone a picture of the 90mm variant, please? Date in the 1950s I think.

 

[JAZZ]

Only know of the HWK-11 a german APC used by Mexico

 

[JAZZ]

Not to many photos around of these beasts

 

[Petrus]

At http://idd007kg.eresmas.net/art/hkw11/index.html you may find an article in Spanish with a few photos of the HWK-11 APC during a Mexican army parade.

Here are some pictures of the vehicle and its version designated the HWK-13, whice was to be an armoured recce vehicle with an engine moved to the rear and a two-man turret armed with a 20mm automatic cannon. It did't got beyond a prototype stage.

Best regards,
Piotr

 

[smurf]

Thanks, Piotr. Some nice pictures I've not seen before. But still no HWK 12 with 90mm recoilless gun.

 

[Petrus]

Here are two more pictures of the HWK-11. This time they both show the original version of the vehicle, with no turret and firing ports and with a pintle-mounted machine gun over the commander's hatch.

As for the HWK-12, this was to be a vehicle somehow similar to the HWK-11 with a 90-mm gun-armed turret mounted where the troop compartment of the APC was and without a commander's hatch in the hull (to the rear of the driver position). As far as I know the HWK-12 was never built (unlike the HWK-13 reconnaissance vehicle). This is perhaps why there is no photos of the beast.

Best regards,
Piotr

 

[smurf]

This is perhaps why there is no photos of the beast.

Seems logical!
Seriously, Piotr, thanks for the extra pics and the information, which gives some idea of how it would have looked. Perhaps a drawing will surface sometime.

 

[Petrus]

Here are scans that come from a Jane's publication of the late 1970s or the early 1980s. Unfortunately, when I made the photocopies a few years ago at a library I didn't put the title and the year down (now the library is closed till the end of June for it's being refitted).

Regards,
Piotr

 

[smurf]

Thanks again. Those are good, and can be read!
I notice the HWK12 entry says 90mm gun, not 90mm recoilless gun.
There was a 90mm version of the Hotchkiss Spz, IIRC

 

[smurf]

I recalled incorrectly. It was 75mm

 

[Petrus]

I think in the 1950s and 1960s the Germans and the Swiss, not to mention the French, used 90mm caliber for their anti-tank guns.
The Swiss army adopted towed 90mm guns in the early 1950s. Quite a few vehicle prototypes armed with the gun were built in Switzerland, but non of them was adopted. Amongst them was a tank-destroyer based on the HS-30 chassis. Here is its photo.

 

[Petrus]

I recalled incorrectly. It was 75mm

You was absolutely right. Contrary to what I thought there had been a version of the Hotchkiss Schutzenpanzer-kurz armed with a 75mm gun mounted in a turret. Here are two photos showing its prototype (of course, the vehicle was not adopted by any army):

(The photos come from http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/bw_spz_kurz_jgpz_75mm.htm)

Best regards,
Piotr

 

[smurf]

Yes, that's the one I had in mind. Does anyone know what type of gun was used? High velocity, medium velocity, even high pressure/low pressure?

 

[Petrus]

Here are scans that come from a Jane's publication of the late 1970s or the early 1980s.

Now I'm reposting the scans posted here 13 years ago using Photobucket.
Piotr

 

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some pics

 

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more

 

[Magus]

No idea of the context of it, but I found this photo on Facebook years ago of an HWK-11 that the Mexican Army mounted a D-90 Lynx turret on. I presume it was a one-off experiment. Mexico uses the same turret on Panhard ERC armored cars, so they would've had plenty of them to work with.