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Re: Honda jet flight movie.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_05_20_2013_p0-580659.xml

U S certification delayed due to engine testing. Hopefully we'll see this interesting bird flying soon.

Nigel
 
Re: Honda jet flight movie.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/07/25/business/hondas-fujino-readying-flying-acura/

On a related note, from an old post, the MH02 (h/t CammNut):
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You can tell it's lunch time here, because I start ferreting through my hard drive and find things like...

This is the MH02 designed by Honda with Mississippi State University and a precusor to the HondaJet. Flown for a total of 170h between March 1993 and August 1996, the MH02 had two Pratt & Whitney Canada JT15D turbofans mounted above a high-set, forward-swept wing. The design was optimised for runway performance, and is claimed by Honda to have been the first all-composite small business jet.
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Re: Honda jet flight movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32F5KLkgIIc
 
Also from July: http://robbreport.com/aviation/first-production-version-hondajet-takes-flight
The $4.5 million jet will be available in five colors, and with the debut of the production version, the company now has one in each color in its fleet. The newest jet is deep green with a gold stripe; the other choices are red, silver, yellow, and blue. The jet flies at a maximum cruise speed of 483 mph, at altitudes up to 43,000 feet, with a range of about 1,350 miles. A single pilot can fly the jet, and it seats as many as five passengers. HondaJet will provide training for pilots and mechanics at its headquarters in Greensboro, N.C. The company expects to deliver as many as 55 jets in the first year of production, which is currently booked for two years.
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HondaJet Nears Federal Aviation Administration Type Certification

http://www.hondajet.com/#0
 
HondaJet Receives Type Certification From Federal Aviation Administration

GREENSBORO, N.C. — Dec. 9, 2015 — The HondaJet received type certification from the United States Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on Tuesday. Honda Aircraft Company and the FAA made the announcement today at the Honda Aircraft headquarters in Greensboro, North Carolina.

http://world.honda.com/HondaJet/
 
http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Honda-s-flagship-business-jet-ready-for-takeoff
 
Doesn't Mercedes make business jet aircraft?
Could Honda make us a better F1 engine immediately? ;D
Honda is causing trouble to Jenson Button very much in the past. Trouble is being also caused to Fernando Alonso well as Button this time. It'll be also useless next season. Honda withdraws from F1 by strange timing in the past and also joins F1 by strange timing this time. Really how can't it be done? :'(
 
http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/12/first-hondajet-has-been-delivered.html
 
Currently Hondajet N420EX is registered to Wells Fargo Bank Northwest, however this could be a finance company for Honda. I'm sure whoever received the first one will be quick to show-it-off!!
 
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Currently Hondajet N420EX is registered to Wells Fargo Bank Northwest, however this could be a finance company for Honda. I'm sure whoever received the first one will be quick to show-it-off!!
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Wells Fargo Bank Northwest isn't exactly a finance company, they're a trust company. There are a large number of aircraft with Wells Fargo Northwest registries because they are being held in an "aircraft trust" which is basically a mechanism to allow a non-US citizen to own an aircraft with a US registry number. Wells Fargo is technically the trustee, "administering" the aircraft in the interest of the actual owner (trustor). In most cases, all WF is actually doing is holding the registration; the real owner operates it.
 
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBprLkdDe6Q


www.hondajet.com

Honda Aircraft Company Unveils the HondaJet Elite S

Honda Aircraft Company revealed the "HondaJet Elite S," at its first ever virtual product launch event themed “Innovation Continues: Elite S.”
www.hondajet.com www.hondajet.com

HondaJet Elite II | A Category Unto Itself

Introducing the HondaJet Elite II, a continuation of the Elite program's vision to redefine the very light jet category with superior performance and efficiency born from aerodynamic breakthrough.
www.hondajet.com www.hondajet.com
 
Now that MRJ is dead, it got me wondering what Honda, now Japan's only manufacturer of civilian aircraft, would be thinking in terms of market opportunity.

I don't think their end goal is the HA-420 series aircrafts (lately they've announced the Elite II) that is VLJ and I'm pretty sure they'll enter the larger business jet markets with the reputation they've built upon the HA-420, soon enough. I've been looking for some market researches but most of them costs a few grands and are out of reach for enthusiast purposes so I'd like to do the next best thing and ask fellow members.

What do you guys think is the plausible market for Honda Aero in the next decade or two?
  1. Stay within the VLJ/light jet market
  2. Expansion to mid-size (Learjet competitor)
  3. Expansiom into mid- and large sized biz-jets (where top of the line Cessna is)
  4. Expansion into long-range biz-jets and regional jet business (becoming Japanese Gulfstream/ Dassault or even Embraer so to speak), achieve what other Japanese heavy industry and aerospace companies couldn't
I'd say #4 is definitely too far fetched, especially without government funding. Also, to achieve such within 2 decades they'll probably need help from other Japanese heavy industries companies which I don't think would be beneficial to program management perspective. Add to that other potential problems, especially the supply chain issues Mitsubishi experienced, would not be all that differemt for Honda.

I'd also say #3 is also a very long shot as well and would require some significant CAPEX and R&D expansion, but achieving #2 doesn't sound like an impossible feat imo.

Though, compared to MRJ there are a few problems with Honda Aero's expansion into larger jet markets. For one they wouldn't be subsidised by the governemnt and two, in case of MRJ, Japanese airlines like ANA lined up with their orders for regional routes which are quite profitable, especially with a more efficient jet that MRJ was supposed to be when the program was first introduced. In case of a medium sized Honda biz jet, there is no main customer to anchor around and market penetration would solely be up to Honda themselves. They might first find some success in Japanese business market but that is also not a given.
 
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Four years ago, I heard that there was a lack of flight sims for the HondaJet, in addition to there being relatively few certified pilots for it. How is the situation now?
 
www.flightglobal.com

Honda Aircraft launches 2600 light jet, with 2028 certification goal

The HondaJet 2600 will soon be more than a concept after North Carolina-based Honda Aircraft committed to developing the 10-person light business aircraft with a goal of having it certificated by 2028.
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www.ainonline.com

HondaJet Echelon is a Bigger and Faster Honda Light Jet | AIN

With transcontinental range of 2,625 nm (NBAA IFR, one pilot, four passengers), the HondaJet Echelon carries on the unique over-the-wing-engine-mount design of the original HondaJet.
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I somehow glanced over but Honda Aircraft has announced that they are developing Honda Jet Echelon (formerly Concept 2600 that was revealed in 2021, named probably from the 2600 nm range). This is a major step up for Honda who have only been a VLJ aircraft manufacturer until now.

They have without a doubt dominated the VLJ market for the past couple of years and it seems like they are continuing their plan to become a more serious aircraft manufacturer, diversifying their business model from 4-wheeled and 2-wheeled land vehicles and as a manufacturer of various engines.

The 2600 nm range is around 2000 km more than that of the latest HondaJet variant, the Elite II model. It is said to be the first LJ category biz jet that can do trans-continental flight across North America from coast to coast.

A lot of the manufacturing will be outsourced, the fuselage being manufactured by Spirit, the avionics will be Garmin 3000 and so on. Most notably, they will not develop a new GE-Honda engine variant but instead use Williams International FJ44. Very understandable, but I find it a bit sad that they are going away from GE-Honda as a fan of Honda F1.

Model name will be HA-480, continuing from HA-420 that was HondaJet. Interior of the jet is being co-designed with Honda America.

They say that there are already more than 350 LOI from various customers including current private HondaJet owners, oftern owner-pilots, as well as charter services.

Rollout and maiden fligbt planned for 2026 and type certification by 2028.
 
www.flightglobal.com

Honda Aircraft begins transforming Greensboro site for new jet Echelon’s testing and production

Honda Aircraft arrives at this year's EBACE show deep in development of its new light business jet Echelon, a 2,625nm (4,862km)-range aircraft it says will best other light jets and prove attractive to charter operators.
www.flightglobal.com www.flightglobal.com

They are aiming ro certify the Echelon as HondaJet derivative to make things a hell lot easier for themselves as well as current users.

Recent news of Boeing touting the possibilities of re-acquiring part of Spirit isn't really worrying, according to them. Maybe they'll go back to GKN for the fuselage if things don't pan out? We'll see.


CDR planned for this year.


Anyways it's crazy to me how Honda, an automotive/motorcycle manufacturer is doing a way better job than Mitsubishi in developing commercial aircraft, albeit the scales are hugely different. Granted, theh also had humongous diffculties with type certification process, but they've perservered, whereas MRJ was an overall shitshow, and ended as a shitshow.
 
Jet It has arrived in Canada
US business jet operator Jet It has announced the opening of a new subsidiary in Canada. The company has also put into service the first HondaJet registered in the country. According to Jet It CEO Glenn Gonzalez, the Canadian market has shown a high level of demand for the company's services. The need for autonomous, efficient regional travel in Canada is as strong as it is in the US or in Europe, where the company operates through its subsidiary JetClub. "Our growth in the States has created awareness in Canada for a lot of people interested in Jet It providing cost-effective private travel." Unlike most fractional operators, Jet It has come to Canada It uses days rather than hours in its accounting, with a half share equal to 130 days of aircraft use and decreasing based on the size of the share. Owners pay only for the flight time at C$2,200 per hour, with no additional approach fees, fuel surcharges or landing fees – a rate previously unavailable in Canada. Jet It’s “day rate” offers a full concierge service, flight crew and all-day access to the aircraft. Jet It currently has 10 HondaJet Elites, most of which are fractionally owned and a few are leased. Each aircraft is flown approximately 800 hours per year. The company is headquartered in Greensboro, North Carolina, adjacent to the HondaJet factory.
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Source: BizavWeek № 32 (587), August 14, 2021 (translated from Russian)

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