Hispano Suiza HS-42 and HS-43

[Jan den Das]

I know this are not exactly projects, because the 42 was in production and the 43 a prototype, but stil my questions.
Who can help me with good drawings of these two types?
Thanks
Jan

 

[c460]

Hello Jan,
There is information about the HS-42/43 in the book by Lage on Hispano Suiza, but no drawing.
Adrien

 

[c460]

From an old leaflet by Hispano Aviacion, formerly hosted there:
http://www.jaon.es/hispanoaviacion

 

[glmm]

A good photo here:

http://leandroaviacion.blogspot.com.es/2013/04/1948-hispano-aviacion-ha-43-con-tren.html

The HS-42 was a bad plane and getting a "modern" folding gear didn't improve things much. After the Defence Agreement signature with the US in 1953 the project was definitively shelved. Many, much, much better Texans became available basically free of charge killing the HS-43 and HA-100 Triana trainer projects among others.

 

[Maveric]

Thanks for this good link.

 

[Jan den Das]

Thanks Gorka


About unlucky and/or bad aeroplanes there is almost very little information in the historical press because they find this mostly not interresting.


This old and surplus American materials kills a lot of European factories.


Jan

 

[richard]

Bonjour


The above link given by C460 don't work , at least for me ...

 

[Stargazer]

Bonjour
The above link given by C460 don't work , at least for me ...

I'm in France too and the link works okay for me... Perhaps the server had the hiccups when you tried? Try again, and if there's still a problem change browsers...

 

[c460]

Bonjour


The above link given by C460 don't work , at least for me ...

You're right, the directory address doesn't work now, please try this one instead:
http://www.jaon.es/hispanoaviacion/ha_intro.htm
But it looks like the documents on this site were replaced by smaller thumbnail versions since I downloaded them.

 

[Jemiba]

... But it looks like the documents on this site were replaced by smaller thumbnail versions since I downloaded them.

... and just one of them can be viewed in bigger size. Really a pity! :-\

 

[richard]

All is O.K now : thank you .


I have "clicked" at the bottom right of the page , and then at the menue (induce) , and then double click on the little pages , and it works ... (sometimes )

 

[c460]

The large version of the scans is not easy to access. Starting from this URL:
http://www.jaon.es/hispanoaviacion/historia/hispano100/HispanoAviacion_maherol_111.JPG
you can increment by hand from 111 to 150 to obtain the whole document.

 

[lark]

It still does not work c460....

 

[Jemiba]

I can access all pages now, using c460s last link as a start and changing the page number
by hand . Slow, but it works, at least for me .

 

[lark]

Indeed ,have it.

 

[c460]

See drawings and documents posted there:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,21618.0.html

 

[CostasTT]

More HA-43:
http://www.aviationcorner.net/gallery_en.asp?aircraft_type=Hispano%20Aviaci%F3n%20HA-43
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/other2/hs42.html

 

[glmm]

About unlucky and/or bad aeroplanes there is almost very little information in the historical press because they find this mostly not interresting.

This old and surplus American materials kills a lot of European factories.

In this case it was fully justified, as the aircraft was pretty bad and mostly unsuitable for flight training. That was a problem the new landing gear wasn't going to solve.


The HA.100 was more promising, but having to rely in locally produced equipment was a major problem. ENMASA had developed several derivatives of the M-25/Wright Cyclone which were pretty outdated and never worked reliability. Importing a foreign engine would have been a problem, as at the time Spain had severe problems of access to foreign currency and had limited capability to import "high tech" equipment from abroad for both economic and political reasons. In fact, the development of the HA.100 was severely slowed by the difficulty to access to imported equipment.


The same problem was shared by the OQUENDO class DDs or the D class submarines.


US surplus came basically free so scarce foreign currency was thus saved. Of course, it basically killed most indigenous projects which weren't cost effective and generally obsolescent........

 

[Jan den Das]

The HA-43 could be armamend, with two Breda-SAFAT machigungs in the wings, but there could also be a mg on the second seat as rear gunner.
Who can help me with more information?
Maybe pictures/drawings from manuals etc.?
Jan

 

[Jan den Das]

Hispano-Suiza HS.42

Enclosed picture I found on Ebay, but was to late to responde, from a manual?
It shows that the second seat could be armament.
Who can help me with more infomation/materials?
Thanks
Jan

 

[Toryu]

original version of the project and another of a torpedo boat with floats.

 

[hesham]

Nice find my dear Toryu,

and for the company,I don't know what was this series,the numbers were for the years or
what,I mean there HS.44,HS.45 ......etc,or not ?.

 

[Toryu]

In this case, I don't know. But the HS-50 and HS-60 are from the 40's.

 

[juanT]

Hi
It does not have the best quality, but I remembered that I have this 4-view plan of the HA-43 in my files (found in todocoleccion.net)

 

[Jjr]

Hi
Thanks better poor quality than nothing.

 

[Jjr]

Flight, August 26th 1948 page 247 by William Green about Spanish Aviation.
He ended that page with information about the HS-52.
The last part is: A gunnery-training version has fixed-forward machine guns mounted in the engine cowling and a flexible gun in the rear cockpit.

The rear armament is visible at the above page from a manual and the forward machine guns at the above page "El proyecta original".

Is there more information concerning this version, pictures drawings etc.??????

Thanks