General Dynamics / Convair hypersonic transport designs

[flateric]

1). 1966 project
2). 1985 project

 

[Orionblamblam]

Actually, they're *both* from '66. Same study produced both designs, and a few others.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

I can't Id this Langley Hypersonic aircraft project,note
it has a rear wing and double delta-wing.

 

[DSE]

Hi,

I can't Id this Langley Hypersonic aircraft project,note
it has a rear wing and double delta-wing.

Unfortunately, the first person I would think of posing this question to, Jim Penland, just recently passed away. Do you have a reference from where this came?

 

[Orionblamblam]

Looks like one of the hypersonic transport designs, either a generic concept or perhaps the Convair design.

 

[flateric]

yes, Scott is right, this is GD Convair hypersonic transport from 1966 (one of two final interations)
http://hdl.handle.net/2060/19720065553

correction: well, now seems that not quite the same...WT model has double delta wing...

 

[Orionblamblam]

This one:

 

[flateric]

Scott, WT model in first post has double delta AND horizontal tail
plus engine nacelles seems to be under wings...so mystery stays on

 

[Orionblamblam]

Oh, yup. I'd missed the horizontal stabilizers.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dears Scott (Orionblamblam),Flateric and DSE,

for the source,it was from a small book about NASA.

For my dear Flateric,I think you are right,the chapter
talk about the period from 1958 to 1967,and it look like
your Convair design,very close.

 

[antigravite]

Hi. The B&W "Press" illustration is currently for sale on the bay (item# 280994667017) with the following caption. "APR 7 1966 Convair Designs Hypersonic Aircraft Studies are under way of two hydrogen- fueled, hypersonic aircraft for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration by Convair division of General Dynamics. One design, top, has delta wings mounted on a circular-type fuselage. The second design features double delta wings blended into the fuselage as an integral part of it. Such a lane could carry 200 passengers about ***** miles nonstop"
Image is numbered "94048" and rated as "UNCLASSIFIED" (of course) in the Convair referencing system.

 

[MaxLegroom]

1). 1966 project
2). 1985 project

The 1985 project is from much earlier. It appears, if I recall correctly, in the Don Dwiggins book The SST: Here It Comes, Ready Or Not. They might have envisioned it flying in 1985, but it was from the '60s.

 

[hesham]

1). 1966 project

Hi,


a clearer view to General Dynamics Hypersonic aircraft.

 

[RAP]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Convair-Hypersonic-Orbital-Bomber-Concept-4x6-Postcard-/201308861573?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276

 

[Orionblamblam]

This would seem to be a newly-manufactured postcard. The painting is here on the SPF somewhere.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19700622/26/2

 

[hesham]

Hi,

I can't Id this Langley Hypersonic aircraft project,note
it has a rear wing and double delta-wing.

From NASA LARC report.

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[CiTrus90]

Hi,

I can't Id this Langley Hypersonic aircraft project,note
it has a rear wing and double delta-wing.

Hi! Sorry to necropost, but does anyone have any idea on how to retrieve information about the source of this image?
I'm specifically interested in learning more about the wind tunnel/scale model (?) partly visible below the main image, the one with the big canards.

 

[flateric]

You mean XB-70?

 

[CiTrus90]

Yes. Because I'd like to take a closer look to see if it's a XB-70 variant, since the nose seems slightly different.

 

[hesham]

Yes. Because I'd like to take a closer look to see if it's a XB-70 variant, since the nose seems slightly different.

The problem is,it was from old book about NASA,and more important thing,
the book is not in PDF form ?.

 

[CiTrus90]

Thanks Hesham. I guess I'll just have to keep an eye open and see if I can find it reprinted somewhere else then.

 

[hesham]

Thanks Hesham. I guess I'll just have to keep an eye open and see if I can find it reprinted somewhere else then.

Dear CiTrus90,

another picture to it is here;

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/nasa-langley-hypersonic-configurations-of-1960s-1970s-1980s.17322/#post-648606

 

[fightingirish]

Actually, they're *both* from '66. Same study produced both designs, and a few others.

I know, this concept was uploaded, err, is flying inverted.

https://flic.kr/p/2pTRWiQ

View: https://flic.kr/p/2pTRWiQ

 

[Orionblamblam]

I know, this concept was uploaded, err, is flying inverted.

https://flic.kr/p/2pTRWiQ

View: https://flic.kr/p/2pTRWiQ

Nah. Those are the ones that Convair subcontracted to be built by 2024 Boeing.

 

[hesham]

Hi

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbGzuyPvBbo

 

[Foo Fighter]

Nah. Those are the ones that Convair subcontracted to be built by 2024 Boeing.

Sorry Scott, if they were supplied by Boeing in 2024, there would be a collection of boxes on the ramp and an encyclopedia sized book of instructions.

Doubtless the 'fixings' would be the wrong assortment too, as for paper for the passengers, n'uh.

 

[SpaceMonk]

Hi!

I desperately need the name of this publication.

 

[Dew]

I desperately need the name of this publication.

Wise, C.E., and Wood, N., “On to Mach 12," Machine Design, March 2, 1967, pp. 84-89.

 

[blackkite]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1229027883789824000

View: https://x.com/skylancer7441/status/1229027883789824000