FALCON CAV (Common Aero Vehicle) competitors

flateric

ACCESS: USAP
Staff member
Top Contributor
Senior Member
Joined
1 April 2006
Messages
11,050
Reaction score
8,484
Have seen Boeing's and Lockheed's (winning) designs, do anyone have anything on Andrews Space and Northrop Grumman CAVs that lost Phase I?
 
Well, this was Boeing's CAV. First pic is probably later variant, and it's damn hard to find many differences from LM proposal.
 

Attachments

  • Boeing_CAVa.jpg
    Boeing_CAVa.jpg
    22.8 KB · Views: 289
  • Boeing-CAV.jpg
    Boeing-CAV.jpg
    26.2 KB · Views: 278
  • Boeing AMaRV - CAV-L.jpg
    Boeing AMaRV - CAV-L.jpg
    16.7 KB · Views: 251
This is I presume truly fictional Andrews Space's CAV, the second pic, meanwhile, is from their report and may be closer to real stuff.

Third is Orbital sharp-edged CAV-H
 

Attachments

  • AndrewsSpace-CAV.jpg
    AndrewsSpace-CAV.jpg
    9.9 KB · Views: 330
  • AndrewsSpace-CAVa.jpg
    AndrewsSpace-CAVa.jpg
    19 KB · Views: 298
  • Orbital Sharp Leading Edge CAV or CAV-H.jpg
    Orbital Sharp Leading Edge CAV or CAV-H.jpg
    57.4 KB · Views: 105
Lockheed CAV
 

Attachments

  • Lockheed-Martin HPMARV or CAV-H.jpg
    Lockheed-Martin HPMARV or CAV-H.jpg
    78.1 KB · Views: 77
  • LM_CAVa.jpg
    LM_CAVa.jpg
    2.5 KB · Views: 974
  • LM_CAV.jpg
    LM_CAV.jpg
    17.1 KB · Views: 133
flateric said:
Have seen Boeing's and Lockheed's (winning) designs, do anyone have anything on Andrews Space and Northrop Grumman CAVs that lost Phase I?

CAV actually split into 2 sub-programs, CAV-L and CAV-H (low performance, and high performance - specifically crossrange maneuvering). The wedge and waverider shapes in flateric's posts were all for CAV-H, while the conics were CAV-L.
CAV-L became HTV-1X, and CAV-H became HTV-2X. HTV-1X became a dead end after they found they could not produce the desired shape with current carbon processes. Odd, since it was relatively simple (though it is not any of those shown by flateric).

This is very interesting reading on the program, and has good leads for further research:
http://www.dtic.mil/dticasd/sbir/sbir041/srch/af031a.doc
 
quellish, bunch of thanks. while moving file to CAV folder had found that have it already, but was reading it last time in 2003=)
 
This has some CAV info. Pg 10, lower right-hand corner, is an illustration of a VTHL SSTO, possibly one of the X-33 competitors. Or just a generic design. Pg. 17 has payload options for the CAV

www.dtic.mil/ndia/2001missiles/bille.pdf
 
Common Aero Vehicle
Autonomous Reentry Trajectory Optimization
Satisfying Waypoint and No-Fly Zone Constraints


Very in-depth. Lots of shiny numbers involved

https://www.afresearch.org/skins/rims/q_mod_be0e99f3-fc56-4ccb-8dfe-670c0822a153/q_act_downloadpaper/q_obj_51679c2c-ea39-41f3-ba37-f5dde06a918d/display.aspx?rs=enginespage
 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29465110/RS2-Falcon-Andrews-RS2

You can read it at Scribd, or join and download it.
 
Boeing CAV patent
http://www.google.com/patents?id=ppnJAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
 

Attachments

  • boeing_cav_1.jpg
    boeing_cav_1.jpg
    63.1 KB · Views: 111
Hi. Also found this another CAV / HTV image named as:


daily-issue_image_2008-11-07_ts_20081107_5200.jpg



from the following source :


http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/strategic-arms-funds-tilt-conventional-in-2009/
 

Attachments

  • daily-issue_image_2008-11-07_ts_20081107_5200.jpg
    daily-issue_image_2008-11-07_ts_20081107_5200.jpg
    55.1 KB · Views: 210

Similar threads

Please donate to support the forum.

Back
Top Bottom