Egypt Obtains MiG-35 & Ka-52

[hesham]

Hi,

we get MiG-35 and Kamov Ka-52 during the early days of this new year.

 

[GARGEAN]

Not the real MiG-35 tho but MiG-29M2.

 

[yasotay]

Really hope those Ka-52's work out for you. Have always been a fan, and it seems a pretty decent concept for an attack aircraft (i.e. no tail rotor to loose).

 

[stealthflanker]

and the M2's looks nice and capable too. It also come with the T220 Targeting pod.

 

[GARGEAN]

Really hope those Ka-52's work out for you. Have always been a fan, and it seems a pretty decent concept for an attack aircraft (i.e. no tail rotor to loose).

Why concept? Its a fully mature platform that was used in combat quite extensively.

 

[Grey Havoc]

Operational concept I think he means.

 

[yasotay]

Indeed. To my knowledge it is the only attack/reconnaissance rotorcraft in production without a tail rotor. Very much aware that it is a combat proven design.

 

[FighterJock]

Why did Egypt buy the MiG-29M2 and not the full up MiG-35? Cost?

 

[GARGEAN]

They were ordered quite some time ago, before 35 face was fully formed. OTOH with order that would probably happened earlier.

 

[hesham]

They were ordered quite some time ago, before 35 face was fully formed. OTOH with order that would probably happened earlier.

It did in 2014.

 

[dan_inbox]

Are they meant for operation on the Gamal Abdul Nassr and Anwar Saadat Mistral-class BPC ships?

 

[galgot]

I suppose so :

Russian-made Ka-52 and Apache helicopters meet face-to-face in Egypt

Russian-made Kamov Ka-52 and AH-64D Apache attack helicopters of Egyptian Air Force were spotted during Egyptian Naval Forces amphibious landing exercises in the Mediterranean on 11 December 2019. The Scramble Magazine reported that Egyptian Air Force Ka-52 and AH-64D Apache helicopters were...

defence-blog.com

 

[Hood]

Were the Ka-52s not originally ordered for the Mistrals by Russia and part of the deal anyway? Or is my memory rusty on that?

 

[dan_inbox]

According to the link posted by Galgot, it's not yet done: "negotiations are underway with Egypt on the sale of a batch of ship-borne Ka-52K helicopters to be based on two Egyptian Mistral UDCs".
So these appear to be land-based. Sat photos spotted them at Al Khatamia AB, too.

 

[Grey Havoc]

The announcement of the navy's order back in 2016:

That Ka-52K order has been officially confirmed by Russian Helicopters:

Egyptian navy buys 46 Ka-52K attack helicopters

Egypt is to acquire 46 navalised Kamov Ka-52K attack helicopters to equip its new French-built Mistral-class amphibious assault ships.

www.flightglobal.com

If I recall correctly, the air force's Ka-52s have done some flying off the Egyptian Mistrals (Gamal Abdel Nasser sub-class).

 

[TR1]

Algerian M2, is it just me or does it have more composites (by surface area) than previous birds?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtaqvXWWgAQtLdP?format=jpg&name=medium

 

[TMA1]

lovely. the choice of mig-29m2 was a smart one. mig-35 was and is still not ready. BTW whats with the flame in the image above?

anyways I have a soft spot in my heart for migs. and the ka-52 is also really cool. I heard they are going to get the new EO suite but not sure about the upgrade to the arbelet radar when it comes out.

 

[stealthflanker]

lovely. the choice of mig-29m2 was a smart one. mig-35 was and is still not ready. BTW whats with the flame in the image above?

Guess it's testing the flare dispenser.

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Anyway. no CAATSA for Egypt ?

 

[helmutkohl]

does Egypt or Algeria receive special pricing from the Russian manufacturers?
Especially Algeria since it's more or less operating the same thing as the Russian AF, just with a few more western helicopters.

TBH, rather than MiG-29M2s, wish they'd got more Su-30MKAs and Yak-130s
their AF is interesting. the ones that are painted grey are for air superiority. the ones with camo are tasked with ground attack. I assume the latter is to replace the Su-24s.

 

[FighterJock]

Any idea as to what weapons the Egyptian Air Force will be getting to accompany the MiG-29M2 deal? Will it include any new advanced missiles?

 

[Evgeniy]

Any idea as to what weapons the Egyptian Air Force will be getting to accompany the MiG-29M2 deal? Will it include any new advanced missiles?

If I am not completely blind, then this photo shows the Kh-38 and R-77 missiles (which one?).

In theory, there should be R-73 \ 74 and X-31.

 

[FighterJock]

Any idea as to what weapons the Egyptian Air Force will be getting to accompany the MiG-29M2 deal? Will it include any new advanced missiles?

If I am not completely blind, then this photo shows the Kh-38 and R-77 missiles (which one?).

In theory, there should be R-73 \ 74 and X-31.

Thanks Evgeniy.

 

[Flyaway]

The MIG-29 even though it has been around for decades now still looks a modern aircraft from appearance alone. They just seem to go on and on.

 

[Cannonfodder43]

On the MiG-29M2 (airborne FB-99) manufactured for the Algerian Air Force, a new Russian helmet-mounted target designation and indication system NSCI-KOS was noticed, and this NSC was delivered to the pilots of the Egyptian Air Force (MiG-29M / M2).

^ Machine translated tweet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1358026909335052299

View: https://twitter.com/StasSwanky/status/1358026909335052299

 

[stealthflanker]

On the MiG-29M2 (airborne FB-99) manufactured for the Algerian Air Force, a new Russian helmet-mounted target designation and indication system NSCI-KOS was noticed, and this NSC was delivered to the pilots of the Egyptian Air Force (MiG-29M / M2).

^ Machine translated tweet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1358026909335052299

View: https://twitter.com/StasSwanky/status/1358026909335052299

Looks cool. Guess no more Ukrainan Sura-K for recent exports.

 

[TMA1]

could they create a less intensive hms with a small bit of hud info along with the sighting and targeting? I wonder sometimes if western fighters these days overload a pilot.