Early Saturn designs

[DarkLord]

I am looking for some drawings or artists impressions of the Saturn Rocket. Before it officially became the Saturn 1, it was to have a Titan 2 missile (complete) as upper stages. If any of you know of locations I would be most grateful. It is a model project I am working on. A, what if, timeline.

 

[Michel Van]

hi Darklord

there were several proposal for that Saturn I
Saturn A-1 with Titan 1 and Centaur
Saturn I & II for Project Horizon

but none with Saturn I with complet Titan 2 as upper stage

more info here
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/saturni.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/hortpost.htm

 

[DarkLord]

Thank you, I have a little on Project Horizon. The pictures will augment what I have as well.

 

[hesham]

And the Saturn story;


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19740004382_1974004382.pdf

 

[Johnbr]

So represented a moonfall in 1961 to NASA of the Apollo spaceship by means of a method of direct flight on a lunar surface (Direct Ascent)
http://geek-mag.com/posts/216025/

 

[zebedee]

Couple of images have turned up on the Flickr feed of the San Diego Aerospace Museum...

Zeb

Atlas Collection Image by SDASM Archives, on Flickr

 

[Boxman]

Tripped across this model at the San Diego Air & Space Museum's (SDASM) Flickr photostream. It is a photo of a model, featuring the caption "Saturn Model - Saturn D." The little I have been able to find on the "Saturn D" is from the NASA Authorization for Fiscal Year 1967 Sentate hearing notes, in the context of Lunar Mission studies, Page 555:

2. Saturn D (Nuclear Rocket Upper State) Mission Studies," Lockheed Missiles & Space Co., August 1962, contract NAS8-1601
3. Saturn D Nuclear Rocket Upper State Mission Study," General Dynamics Astronautics, August 1962, contract NAS8-1600

Here's a link and the photo:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/31236821642/

Came across additional photos (larger versions are available at the addresses linked above each photo):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/31236822422/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/31236824022/

 

[Jcking]

The University of Alabama has Saturn System Studies II, covering mostly B series Saturns.

https://uah.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/api/collection/p16608coll1/id/31283/download

 

[TimothyC]

Saturn C-2 Phase 1 Preliminary Design Report, includes the common-bulkhead 'single tank' version of the S-I stage. I would note that the vast majority of the vehicle properties included later in the report are based on the historic clustered first stage.

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19630045066

 

[Yellow Palace]

Saturn C-2 Phase 1 Preliminary Design Report, includes the common-bulkhead 'single tank' version of the S-I stage. I would note that the vast majority of the vehicle properties included later in the report are based on the historic clustered first stage.

Interestingly, the common-bulkhead, single-tank version was still their recommendation for the C-2.

Although the report glosses over it, the conclusion that the proposed S-III stage was too big for a 3rd stage and too small for a 2nd stage on the C-3 is very interesting.

 

[Deleted member 2278]

A couple of articles on Saturn:

Aircraft & Missiles Applied Engineering for the Aerospace Industries 1960-08: Vol 3 Iss 8 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Aircraft & Missiles Applied Engineering for the Aerospace Industries 1960-08: Volume 3, Issue 8.Digitized from IA1514529-01.Previous issue:...

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Aircraft & Missiles Applied Engineering for the Aerospace Industries 1961-01: Vol 4 Iss 1 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Aircraft & Missiles Applied Engineering for the Aerospace Industries 1961-01: Volume 4, Issue 1.Digitized from IA1514529-01.Previous issue:...

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