Dewoitine

[Maveric]

Hi all,

I search for a complete list of aircraft by the french aircraft builder Dewoitine.
If you have drawings of projects by Dewoitine please let me know. Thanks.

Servus Maveric

 

[Deltafan]

Yes, i have the book "Les avions Dewoitine". I promised the complete list in another topic. But i need a little more time :-[

 

[Deltafan]

Ahem... It's a little late... :-[

but it's gone : say me when the translation is not good :

Part one :

D.1 : 1920 : fighter
D.1 bis : 1923 : fighter, derivative of the D.1
D.1 ter : 1924 : fighter, derivative of the D.1
D.2 : 1920 : two seats bomber (project)
D.3 : 1921 : one engine transport (project)
D.4 : 1921 : two engines transport (project)
D.4 : 1921 : two engines bomber (unfinished prototype)
D.5 : 1921 : one engine two seats observer (project)
D.6 : 1922 : torpedo seaplane two engines 2-3 seats (project)
D.7 : 1922 : little civilian plane
D.8 : 1922 : fighter
D.9 : 1922 : fighter, derivative of the D.1
D.10 : 1923 : little civilian plane two engines (maybe unfinished prototype)
D.11 : 1923 : maybe transport derivative of the D.4 (project ?)
D.12 : 1923 : fighter, derivative of the D.1
D.13 : 1923 : fighter, derivative of the D.1 (project)
D.14 : 1923 : transport, one engine
D.14S : 1925 : medical transport derivative of the D.14 (project)
D.15 : 1923 : fighter
D.16 : 1924 : maybe night bomber, two engines derivative of the D.4 (project ?)
D.17 : 1924 : little civilian plane (unfinished prototype)
D.18 : 1924 : to cross North-Atlantic (unfinished prototype)
D.19 : 1924 : fighter, derivative of the D.1
D.20 : 1925 ? : maybe transport, metal derivative of the D.14 (project)
D.21 : 1925 : fighter, derivative of the D.1
D.22 : unidentified
D.23 : unidentified
D.24 : unidentified
D.25 : 1926 : fighter, two seats
D.26 : unidentified
D.26 : 1929 : trainer, derivative of the D.27
D.26-I : trainer, 300 hp
D.26-II : trainer, 200 hp
D.27 : 1927 : fighter
D.27-I : fighter, renamed D.27
D.27-II ? : trainer (later renamed D.26 and D.26-I)
D.27-III : fighter
D.27-IIIR : fighter
D.270 : fighter
D.271 : fighter
D.272 : aerobatics
D.273 : fighter
D.274 : racer
D.275 : 1932 : for high altitude record
D.28 : 1933 : fighter
D.28 : 1928 : transport, one engine
D.28 bis : transport, one engine (project)
D.29 : 1928 : postal, one engine

 

[Boogey]

Dewoitine D.26 :
http://www.aviafrance.com/326.htm

Many of others Dewoitine aircraft are to find on the same site :
http://www.aviafrance.com/constructeur.php?ID_CONSTRUCTEUR=423

 

[Deltafan]

Part two :


D.30 : 1928 : transport, one engine
D.31 : 1929 : transport, three engines, derivative of the D.30
D.310 : foreseen new name of the D.31
D.32 : 1929 : fighter, derivative of the D.27 (project)
D.32 bis : 1929 : fighter, derivative of the D.32 (project)
D.33 : 1929 : for ditance record, one engine
D.33B : 1931 : bomber, derivative of the D.33
D.331 : 1931 : renamed D.33B
D.332 : 1932 : transport, three engines, derivative of the D.33
D.332 bis : 1932 : transport, three engines, derivative of the D.33 (project)
D.332-1 : renamed D.332 bis
D.332 M : 1933 : transport, three engines, derivative of the D.33 (project)
D.332-2 : renamed D.332 M
D.332 Militaire : 1933-34 : bomber, derivative of the D.332 (project)
HD.333 : 1934 : seaplane, bomber, derivative of the D.332 (project)
D.333 : 1934 : transport, derivative of the D.332
D.333 militaire : 1934 : bomber, derivative of the D.333 (project)
D.334 : 1933 : transport, derivative of the D.332 (project)
D.335 : 1933 : transport, derivative of the D.332 (unfinished)
D.336 : 1933 : postal for South Atlantic, three engines (project)
D.336 bis : 1933 : postal for South Atlantic, three engines (project)
D.337 : 1933 : bomber, two engines
HD.338 : 1934 : seaplane, transport for South Atlantic, three engines (project)
D.338 : 1934 : transport, derivative of the D.335
HD.339 : 1934 : seaplane, transport for South Atlantic, three engines (project)
D.339 : 1937 : military transport, three engines (project)
D.34 : 1929 : little transport, one engine (project)
D.340 : 1937 : transport, three engines, derivative of the D.620 (project)
D.341 : 1937 : transport, three engines (project)
D.342 : 1937 : transport, three engines, derivative of the D.620
D.35 : 1929 : little transport, one engine (project)
D.35 bis : 1929 : derivative of the D.35 (project)
D.350 : 1944 : transport, two engines (study for Mitsubishi)
D.36 : 1930 : little civilian plane (project)
D.36 bis : 1930 : little civilian plane (project)
D.37 : 1929 : light fighter (project)
D.37 : 1930 : fighter
D.370 : renamed (second) D.37
D.371 : 1932 : fighter
D.372 : 1934 : fighter
D.373 : 1934 : navy fighter
D.374 : 1935 : two seats navy fighter (project)
D.375 : 1935 : two seats navy recce (project)
D.376 : 1935 : navy fighter
D.38 : 1929 : fighter (project)
D.39 : unidentified

 

[Deltafan]

Part three :

D.40 : 1929 : racing trainer (project)
HD.40 : 1930 : seaplane, racing trainer, derivative of the D.40 (project)
D.41 : 1930 : racing trainer (project)
HD.41 : 1930 : seaplane, racing trainer, derivative of the D.41 (project)
HD.41 : 1930 : seaplane, racer
HD.410 : 1930 : renamed racer HD.41
HD.411 : 1931 : seaplane, racer (project)
HD.412 : 1931 : renamed racer HD.41
D.42 : unidentified
D.420 : 1933 : multi-seats fighting plane, two engines (unfinished prototype)
D.43 : 1930 : colonial plane, three engines
D.430 : renamed D.43
D.431 : 1933-34 : transport, three engines (project)
D.432 : 1936 : renamed D.430 with new engines
D.44 : 1930 : transport, four engines (project)
D.440 ? : 1931 ? : little civilian plane (project)
D.44 bis : 1930 : transport, four engines (project)
D.45 : 1930 : transport, four engines (project)
D.450 ? : 1931 ? : little civilian plane (project)
HD.46 : 1930 : seaplane, transport, four engines (project)
D.47 : 1930-31 : fighter (project)
D.47 bis : 1931 : fighter (project)
D.48 : 1930 : school
D.480 : renamed D.48
D.481 : 1930 : derivative of the D.480
D.482 : 1934 : D.480 and D.481 with new engine
D.483 : 1935 : experimental
D.49 : 1930 : transport, one engine (project)
D.49 : 1930-31 : fighter (project)
D.49 bis : 1931 : fighter (project)

 

[Deltafan]

Part four :

D.50 : 1930-31 : fighter (project)
D.50 : 1931 : fighter (project)
D.50 bis : 1931 : fighter (project)
D.500 : 1931 : fighter
HD.500 : 1932 : seaplane, fighter (project)
D.501 : 1932 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project)
D.501 : 1933 : fighter, derivative of the D.500
HD.502 : 1932 : seaplane, derivative of the HD.500 (project)
D.502 : 1933 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project)
D.503 : 1933 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (prototype unfinished)
D.503 : 1933 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project)
D.503 : 1934-35 : fighter
HD.503 : 1933-34 : seaplane, fighter (project)
D.504 : 1933 : experimental, derivative of the D.503
D.504 : 1935 : experimental, derivative of the D.513 (project)
D.505 : 1934 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project)
D.506 : 1934 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project)
D.507 : 1935 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project for Argentina)
D.508 : 1935 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project for Argentina)
D.508 bis : 1935 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project for Argentina)
D.509 : 1935 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project for Argentina)
D.51 : 1930-31 : fighter (project)
D.510 : 1933 : fighter
D.511 : 1933 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project)
D.511 : 1934 : fighter, derivative of the D.510
D.512 : 1934 : fighter, derivative of the D.500 (project for Lithuania)
D.513 : 1935 : fighter
D.514 : 1935 : experimental, derivative of the D.513
D.515 : 1934 : fighter, derivative of the D.510 (project)
D.52 : 1930-31 : fighter (project)
D.520 : 1935 : light fighter (study)
D.520 : 1937 : fighter
D.520 DC : 1945 : two seats trainer
D.520 Z : 1941 : modified D.520 with HS 12 Z engine
D.521 : 1939 : derivative of the D.520 with Merlin engine
D.522 : 1940 : derivative of the D.520 with american engine Allison or HS special (project)
D.523 : 1940 : derivative of the D.520 with HS 12 Y 51 engine
D.524 : 1940 : derivative of the D.520 with HS 12 Z engine (prototype unfinished)
D.525 : 1940 : derivative of the D.520 with HS 12 Y 51 engine and special charger (project)
D.53 : 1931 : fighter, derivative of the D.27
D.530 : renamed D.53
D.530 : 1938 : racer, derivative of the D.520 (project)
D.531 : 1931 : fighter, derivative of the D.53
D.532 : 1931 : fighter, derivative of the D.53
D.533 : 1931 : fighter, derivative of the D.530 (project)
D.534 : 1931 : experimental
D.535 : 1931 : fighter, derivative of the D.530
D.536 : 1932 : fighter, derivative of the D.530 (prototype unfinished)
D.537 : 1932 : trainer, derivative of the D.530 (project)
HD.537 : 1932 : seaplane, fighter, derivative of the D.535 (project)
D.540 : 1932 : fighter (project)
D.550 : 1932 : fighter (project)
D.550 : 1938 : racer
D.550 : 1939 : light fighter, derivative of the D.550 (project)
D.551 : 1939 : fighter (12 unfinished)
D.552 : 1939 : fighter, derivative of the D.550 (2 unfinished)
D.553 : 1940 : fighter, derivative of the D.551 (project)
D.554 : 1940 : fighter, derivative of the D.551 (project)
D.555 : 1940 : recce (4 unfinished)
D.560 : 1931 : fighter
D.560 : 1940 : racer, derivative of the D.551 (2 unfinished)
D.561 : 1932 : fighter, derivative of the first D.560
HD.561 : 1932 : seaplane, derivative of the D.561 (project)
HD.562 : 1932 : seaplane, derivative of the D.561 (project)
HD.563 : 1933 : seaplane, derivative of the D.561 (project)
D.570 : 1931 ? : civilian plane (project)
D.570 : 1933 : fighter
D.570 : 1938 : two seats trainer for fighting (project)
D.571 : 1933 : experimental, derivative of the second D.570 (project)
HD.571 : 1934 : seaplane, derivative of the second D.570 (project)
D.572 : 1934 : derivative of the second D.570 (project)
D.58 : 1930 : for long distances, derivative of the D.33 (project)
D.580 : renamed D.58
D.580 : 1938 : two seats trainer for fighting (project)
D.59 : 1931 : bomber, one engine, derivative of the D.33 (project)
D.59 : 1932 : rapid transport, derivative of the D.33 (project)
D.590 : 1939 : racer (project)

 

[Deltafan]

Part five :

D.600 : 1932-33 : postal, one engine (project)
D.600 : 1937 : fighter, two engines (project)
D.600 : 1939 : bomber, three seats, two engines (project)
D.600 : 1942 : fighter (project for Spain, mock-up)
D.601 : 1932-33 : postal, one engine (project)
D.601 : 1937 : fighter, two engines (project)
D.602 : 1932-33 : postal, one engine (project)
D.610 : 1933 : postal, one engine (project)
D.610 : 1937 : command (?), 3 seats, 2 engines (project)
D.611 : 1937 : command (?), 3 seats, 2 engines (project)
D.620 : 1933 : postal, one engine (project)
D.620 : 1934 : transport, three engines
D.620 Militaire : 1934 : bomber, derivative of the second D.620 (project)
D.621 : 1935 : derivative of the second D.620 (project)
D.630 : 1935 : fighter, two engines (project)
D.631 : 1935 : fighter, two engines (project)
D.640 : 1934 : fighter, 2 seats, two engines (project)
HD.650 ? : 1934 : fighter, derivative of the D.640 (project)
D.660 : 1935 : bomber, two engines (project)
HD.670 : 1935 : seaplane (project)
D.670 : 1937 : 3 seats, two engines (project)
D.671 : 1937 : 3 seats, two engines (project)
D.680 : 1936 : dive bomber, two engines (project)
HD.700 : 1934 : seaplane, to cross South Atlantic (project)
D.700 : 1937 : 3 seats, two engines (unfinished prototype)
D.700 : 1945-46 : Pulqui I : interceptor jet for Argentina
D.700-T2 : 1945 : transport, two engines (project studied in Spain)
D.710 : 1938 : 3 seats, two engines (project)
D.710 : 1947 : transport, two engines (project studied in Argentina)
D.720 : 1938 : 3 seats, two engines, derivative of the first D.700
D.720 : 1948 : interceptor jet (project studied in Argentina)
D.721 : 1938 : derivative of the first D.720 (unfinished prototype)
HD.730 : 1938 : seaplane, observation
D.730 : 1952 : interceptor jet (project studied in Spain and in Argentina)
HD.731 : 1938 : seaplane, derivative of the HD.730
HD.732 : 1942 : seaplane, trainer (project)
HD.740 : 1938 : seaplane, school (project)
D.740 : 1952 : interceptor jet (project studied in Spain and in Argentina)
D.750 : 1938 : seaplane, navy observation
D.750 : 1952 : liaison, one engine
D.750-1 : renamed second D.750
D.750-2 : 1954 : derivative of the D.750-1
D.760 : 1955 : trainer jet, 2 seats (project studied in Spain)
D.770 : 1938 : ground attack, three seats, 2 engines
D.770 : 1955 : trainer jet, 1-2 seats (project)
D.771 : 1938 : derivative of the ground attack D.770
D.772 : 1939 : light bomber, 3 seats, derivative of the ground attack D.770 (unfinished prototype)
HD.780 : 1938 : seaplane, fighter (2 unfinished)
D.790 : 1939 : navy fighter (project)
D.790B : 1939 : derivative of the D.790 (2 unfinished)
D.800 : 1937 : heavy bombler, 4 engines (unfinished prototype)
D.810 : 1937 : bomber, 2 engines (project)
D.820 : 1937 : bomber, 4 engines (project)
D.821 : 1937 : derivative of the D.820 (project)
D.860 : 1939 : navy fighter, derivative of the D.520 (project)
D.900 : 1937 : for long distances records, three engines (project)

The end, for now

 

[hesham]

My dear Deltafan,

I saw a picture for Dewoitine D.20 as civil lightplane in a book in
a library,but I don't remember its name now,probably one aircraft
was built.

 

[Deltafan]

Hi Hesham

On the page 362 of the book (Les avions Dewoitine, éditions Larivière, collection Docavia, Raymond Danel and Jean Cuny, september 1982) it is said that only the D.14 flow and that it was too heavy for its work (transport for 6 passengers).
The authors are not sure about the designation of the D.20 : all metall version of the D.14. But they wrote that it was only a project from Dewoitine. Nobody wanted the "unrealistic" "D.20" project (if the D.14 was too heavy, there would be probably the same problem with its all metall version...) and Dewoitine never began the building of the plane.

It's all that i know.

Maybe you have seen a model of the D.20 project ? Or it was maybe the D.14 with a mistake on the text ?
The designation of the D.14 was : F-AHEH.

 

[Boogey]

@ Deltafan Thanks very much for the entire list of Dewoitine aircraft.
It helped me to complete my list of Dewoitine military planes.
While searching in the net for confirmation of military role of some airplanes from Your list
and looking for their photos and specifications I've found a nice site just by chance :
http://www.hydroretro.net/

Thanks once again

 

[Deltafan]

Thanks for the 3 sites about Dewoitine Boogey

 

[hesham]

My dear Deltafan,

can I ask you some questions about the competitions which the Dewoitine
aircraft involved in it.
D.13 :did it involve in 1923 C1 program ?.
D.32,D.37 (1929) and D.38 :did they involve in 1928 C1 program ?.

 

[Deltafan]

Sorry Hesham, i just found your question :-[

I must look for in my files. I answer tomorrow

 

[Deltafan]

It's not easy to answer your question exactly.

My source : Les avions Dewoitine, Danel and Cuny, DOCAVIA/Editions Larivière, 1982

Page 35 : it's not said that the D.13 (project) was involved in 1923 C1 program, but it's said that the D.19, foreseen to involve in 1923 C1 program, took the place of the D.13 in 1924...

Page 73 and 74 : The D.32 (engine Hispano Suiza 12 Nb with 650 hp) was designed for the 1928 C1 program. This plane and the D.32 bis (with a turbocharged derivative of the Hispano Suiza 12 Mb 500/550 hp) were not choosen by the CEDANA commission about the 1928 C1 program.

Page 74 (D.37) and pages 79/80 (D.38) : The D.37 and D.38 were not foreseen for the 1928 C1 program, but for the 1929 "very light" (ultra-léger) program.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Deltafan very much,

and for very light program,I think it was the same program of 1928 C.1,
that is because no program for fighter in 1929.

 

[Deltafan]

In L'aviation de chasse française, Cuny + Danel, DOCAVIA/Editions Larivière, It's said that the 1930 program C1 for "normal" fighters was the following of the 1928 C1 program. If the 1929 "light fighter" program had similarities with the 1928 C1 program (for example, the same max speed of 300 km/h), the foreseen planes' in-fly weight for the 1929 "light fighter" program was 1000 kgs (max 1808 kgs for the "standart" Nieuport-Delage NiD-42 from 1923 C1 program).

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Deltafan,

and can I ask you about,the D.47 of 1930,D.49 of D.50 of 1930,D.51
of 1930 and D.52 of 1930 were involved in 1930 C.1 competition ?.

 

[Deltafan]

Too late for today. Tomorrow

 

[Deltafan]

Too late yesterday too :-\*

You are right,
in Les avions Dewoitine page 81, it is said that the projects D.47 and D.49 to D.52 were foreseen to answer to the "contradictory criteria" of the 1930 C1 program.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Deltafan very very much,

and what about the D.50 and D.51,take your time my dear,
that is because I make an analysis for French competitions
from 1920 to 1939.

 

[Deltafan]

Well, my bad english made a misunderstanding ;D

When i wrote D.49 to D.52, it was : D.49, D.50, D.51 und D.52

 

[hesham]

Oh sorry my dear Deltafan,

and thank you very much,I read it quickly,and can I ask you about
D.600 and D.601 of 1937 were for 1937 C.3 competition ?.

 

[Deltafan]

Page 278 :

The D.600 and 601 projects were foreseen for the "technical programm" A-22 from december 1936. The two projects were too heavy for the officials.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Deltafan very very much,

and last questions about,the D.630 and D.631 was for 1934 C.3,and the D.670
and D.671 of 1937 was for 1937 C.3.

 

[Deltafan]

For the (C3) D.630 and 631 (page 279), you are right.

For the D.670 and 671 (page 250). These projects were foreseen as "triplace de travail" (three seats for general purpose ?) T3 for the A.19 technical programme (07/12/1936). It seems that the main mission was reconnaissance (name of the chapter).

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Deltafan very very much.

 

[patvig]

For D.35, I have a maiden flight on 11 November, 1935 (unknown source)

• 1 engine with 300hp
• 1 pilot and 4 passengers
• 215 km/h
  

 

[hesham]

My dear Patvig,


1935 ??,who said that,it made its maiden flight in 1930.

 

[patvig]

I agree and I correct my record.

Thanks

Edit : it was a mistake in writing my post, my record was correct. Shame on me!

 

[hesham]

Never mind my dear Patvig.

 

[richard B]

Production - De Dewoitine à AIRBUS

Liste chronologique de production des appareils Dewoitine Modèles Description Lancement 1° vol Construits Période militaire : 20 février 1911 1911 Sapeur-aérostier au 5° Génie de Satory Mécanicien avion à l’escadrille Blériot 1913 Caporal à l’escadrille saharienne de Biskra en Algérie...

www.aerotheque.com

 

[hesham]

From this report,

I think that,they meant HD.780 instead off HD.870 ?.

 

[Stargazer]

I think that,they meant HD.780 instead off HD.870 ?.

First, it's not a "report"...
Second, if you notice a typo in an article or a document, and your accumulated knowledge and experience tells you it's a typo, why even bother asking the question? As researchers, we are daily faced with such mistakes in magazines, blogs, forums, even books... Our job is to separate the wheat from the chaff, not to perpetrate those mistakes, and not doubt if there is a semblance of truth behind what is obviously an inversion of two digits.
You and I grew up in an era when the written word meant something, when authors were reliable sources and their publishers had their writings proof-checked. But the situation today is unfortunately very different...
Perhaps we should have a topic such as "Blatant typos found in supposedly serious sources" and put this kind of thing there?
Anyway, you, hesham, are no novice. As part of this forum's knowledgeable specialists, take a stand, simply discard the mistakes, at best denounce them, but typos should not constantly shake your trust in the things you know...

 

[hesham]

I agree with that Stargazer,

but you know that,there are many gaps in the list of Dewoitine,so I hope to get them.