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Hi,


that great company has many aircraft and projects,and I hope you help
me in this list;


Ae.1 two seat military trainer biplane built in 1919
Ae.2 single seat fighter biplane,the first fighter designed and built in Czechoslovakia
Ae.3 two seat military recce aircraft,powered by one 180 hp Hispano-Suiza 8Aa engine
Ae.4 single seat fighter biplane,developed from Ae.2,not successful.
Ae.5 -------?
Ae.6 -------?
Ae.7 -------?
A.8 biplane light transport aircraft,it had a cabin and four passenger
A.9 -------?
A.10 biplane light transport aircraft,entered service and instead off A.8
A.11 two seat light bomber and recce aircraft
Ab.11 light bomber version of A.11
A.12 two seat light bomber and recce biplane
A.13 ------?
A.14 two seat military recce biplane,powered by one Hiero N engine
A.15 developed from A.14,but fitted with Hiero L engine
A.16 unbuilt project of single engined biplane night bomber,designed in 1926
A.17 single seat sailplane of 1922
A.18 single seat fighter biplane,powered by one 185 hp BMW IIIa engine
A.19 single seat fighter biplane,powered by one 170 hp engine,rejected in favour of A.18
A.20 single seat fighter biplane,powered by one 300 hp engine,also rejected in favour A.18
A.21 two seat night trainer biplane,a version of A.11
A.22 unbuilt project of heavy bomber biplane with four 300 hp Hispano-Suiza 8Fb engine,1924
A.22/II light civil transport biplane,version of A.11 with one pilot and two seat passenger
A.23 eight/nine seat civil transport biplane,powered by one 450 ho radial piston engine
A.24 twin engined night bomber biplane,built and it was powered by two 240 hp engines
A.25 two seat day trainer version of A.11,powered by one 185 hp engine
A.26 two seat military recce biplane,powered by one 185 hp BMW IIIa engine
A.27 a project for night bomber,based on A.24 but fitted with Bristol Jupiter engines
A.27/II re-allocated to 12 passenger airliner project,with two Lorraine-Dietrish 12Cc engines
A.28 two seat trainer aircraft,no more details
A.29 two seat military floatplane,a version of A.11
A.30 two sear long range recce and light bomber biplane,also based on A.11
A.31 single seat fighter biplane,powered by one engine,project only.
A.32 two seat army co-operation biplane,based on A.11 and powered by one 450 hp engine
A.33 14-seat airliner biplane project of 1928,powered by three radial piston engines
A.34 two seat sporting and touring biplane,powered by one 85 hp radial piston engine
A.35 high-wing six seat light civil transport monoplane,powered by one 240 radial piston engine
A.36 was a biplane bomber project of 1926,powered by three Bristol Jupiter engines
A.37 ------?
A.38 ten seat commercial transport biplane,powered by one 450 hp radial piston engine
A.39 ------?
A.40 was a project of racer biplane of 1926,the engine was Skoda L boosted up from 450 to 620 hp
A.41 ------?
A.42 single engined high-wing cantilever monoplane light bomber,with fixed landing gear
A.42c was a twin engined version of A.42,with two 500 hp Walter Merkur IV radial engines
A.43 ------?
A.44 was a project of heavy bomber monoplane of 1931,with two Praga Asso engines
A.45 ------?
A.46 two seat military trainer biplane,powered by one 300 hp water-cooled piston engine
A.47 ------?
A.48 was high-wing 8-seat monoplane airliner project of 1932,with three Walter Pollux engines
A.49 two seat parasol wing ultralight aircraft project,beaten by Letov S-39
A.50 ------?
A.51 ------?
A.52 ------?
A.53 ------?
A.54 ------?
A.55 was anther ultralight project,a high-wing monoplane,powered by 50/60 hp Walter Polaris engine
A.56 ------?
A.57 ------?
A.58 ------?
A.59 ------?
A.60 passenger aircraft of 1933,first low-wing cantilever monoplane,with three Walter Castor engines
A.61 to A.99 probably not use
A.100 two seat long range recce biplane,powered by one 650 hp inline piston engine
A.101 two seat light bomber biplane,a version of A.100,powered by one 800 hp engine
Ab.101 two seat light bomber biplane,developed from A.101
A.102 single seat high gull wing monoplane fighter,powered by one 900 hp engine
A.103 ------?
A.104 two seat parasol wing light bomber monoplane
A.105 ------?
A.106 ------?
A.107 single seat lightweight fighter powered by one Walter Saggita engine
A.108 ------?
A.109 ------?
A.110 light aircraft (not sure)
A.111 developed from Ab.11,
A.125 two seat day trainer biplane,developed from A.25,but fitted with 180 hp engine
A.130 a version of A.30,but fitted with Walter-built 500 hp Bristol Jupiter VI engine
A.134 developed from A.34 but fitted with 130 hp engine
A.200 four seat low-wing cabin sporting monoplane,powered by one 200 hp radial piston engine
A.201 ------?
A.202 twin engined 14-seat cantilever low-wing monoplane airliner project,rival to Avia 57
A.203 ------?
A.204 twin engined eight passenger low-wing monoplane
A.205 ------?
A.206 twin engined light bomber and recce aircraft,based on A.204 with 800 hp engines
A.207 ------?
A.208 twin engined four seat multi purpose military aircraft project
A.209 ------?
A.210 a project looked like A.202 evolution,but with four 550 hp Walter inverted V12 engines
A.211 was a two seat trainer aircraft or Project,no more details
A.212 (1937),project was kind of Ae.45 precursor but with more conventional appearance,with
two Walter minor engines
A.230 developed from A.30 with divided main landing gear units,and one 490 hp engine
A.300 twin engined low-wing medium bomber,based on A.204
A.301 ------?
A.302 two seat low-wing fighter and ground attack monoplane project
A.303 ------?
A.304 a refind twin engined low-wing medium bomber version of A.300
A.321 attack version of A.32,with 450 hp engine for Finnish Air Force
A.330 a more powerful engine version of A.30,with 650 hp engine
A.351 developed from A.35,no more details
A.381 & A.382 a production versions of A.38
A.400 ------?
A.401 ------?
A.402 ------?
A.403 ------?
A.404 a project developed from A.304 as a bomber
A.430 one prototype of developed version of A.30,with 650 hp Avia Vr-36 engine


to be continued .....
 
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Hi,


post WW2 A series;


Ae.45 twin engined low-wing civil utility aircraft,powered by two 105 hp engines
Ae.46 ------?
Ae.47 ------?
Ae.48 may be airliner project
Ae.49 twin engined twin boom light transport aircraft project
Ae.50 two seat propeller-driven high-wing military recce aircraft,powered by one 105 hp engine
Ae.51 two-seat artillery observation and recce aircraft Project,powered by one Walter Minor engine
Ae.52 ------?
Ae.53 high-wing assault glider transport project of 1951
Ae.54 ------?
Ae.55 ------?
Ae.56 ------?
Ae.57 ------?
Ae.58 a twin engined low-wing light transport monoplane Project,accommodated 8/12 passenger,and powered by two Walter M-446 engines
Ae.145 a version of Ae.45 with supercharged engines
Ae.148 12 passenger airliner project of 1949,with two 700 hp air-cooled inverted Walter V-12
(M-446) engines
Ae.245 experimental version of Ae.45,project only
Ae.270 low-wing single engined light transport aircraft,accepted over L-270
Ae.345 also a project of experimental,a regular airframe version of Ae.45,with Minor 6-III engines
 
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Hi,


the rest of Aero post WW2 aircraft and projects;


VT-16 & VT-116 sailplanes
VT-100 sailplane
VSB.62 sailplane
VSB.66 sailplane


B-34 low-wing jet attack aircraft project,powered by one RD-9 engine
L-29 tandem two seat jet trainer aircraft
L-39 high performance two seat jet trainer aircraft
L-39/I early studied aircraft design to L-39
L-39/II early studied aircraft design to L-39
L-39/M also early studied aircraft design to L-39
L-39/X ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,,
L-49 a modernized version of L-39,with more powerful engine,project only
L-59/I early studied aircraft,was a stretch version of L-39 with delta wing and two
engines,mounted at the end of the fuselage
L-59 two seat jet trainer,with a strengthened fuselage and longer nose,developed from L-39
L-60 STOL single engined high-wing light utility transport and observation aircraft
L-129 was developed from L-29 with Boeing engine
L-159/I early studied was for single seat twin engined high delta wing aircraft,project only
L-159 light combat aircraft,developed from L-59
L-160 improved version of L-60 with all metal tail
L-229 single seat light attack version of L-29,project only
L-260 derivative of L-60,but fitted with 240 hp Praga M-208D engine
L-260/II high-wing 10 seat multi-purpose aircraft project of 1970,with single M-601 turboprop engine
L-270 high-wing single engined light utility aircraft
L-329 recce L-29,also aclled L-29R
L-360 derivative of L-60,but fitted with 260 hp Ivchenko AI-14R radial engine
L-429 single seat Aerobatic L-29
 
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Hi Hesham and all!

Some additions and corrections:

Ae-03 was high-altitude photo recon aircraft (probably the very first!) and it was single-seat, accordind to Vaclav Nĕmeček. It was quite small aircraft, of “fighter size” – only 8.20 m wing span. See http://www.vinar.cz/mitte/ae03.htm .

A-16 was unbuilt project of single-engined biplane night bomber, designed in 1926.

A-22 you mentioned was already second application of this index. The first one was unbuilt project of heavy bomber biplane with four 300-hp Hispano-Suiza 8Fb engines, designed in 1924 and resembling Handley-Page V.1500.

A-27 bomber project was also the second one under this number. The first one was designed a bit earlier – in 1925; it also appeared to be A-24 derivative but not a bomber – it would be an airliner carrying 12 passengers, with two Lorraine-Dietrich 12Cc engines.

A-33 was 14-seat airliner project, designed in 1928. It was trimotor biplane with radial engines: one 480-hp Walter Jupiter (license Bristol) as the central one, and two 380-hp Walter Pollux.

A-36 (1926) was biplane bomber project with three Jupiter engines. The third engine was placed on the upper wing center section as pusher.

A-40 was a project of racing biplane resembling Curtiss racers in appearance. It was planned for 1926 President Cup. The engine was Skoda L boosted up from 450 to 620 hp, and the maximum speed was calculated as much as 410 km/h.

A-42 had unbuilt twin-engine version – the A-42c with 500-hp Walter Merkur IV radials (license-built Gnome-Rhone Mercure which were themselves license-built Bristol Mercury).

A-44 was a project of heavy bomber monoplane with two Praga Asso engines (Isotta-Fraschini license), designed in 1931, a bit resembling Dornier Do 23 or larger version of mentioned A-42c, but with unusual triple-fin biplane empennage.

A-48 (1932) was 8-seat airliner project, a high-wing monoplane with three Walter Pollux engines.

A-49 was two-seat parasol-wing ultralight aircraft project, designed for the competition which winner was Letov S-39.

A-55 was another ultralight project, a high-wing monoplane powered by 50/60-hp 3-cylinder Walter Polaris radial.

A-60 projected in 1933 was passenger aircraft with three Walter Castor radials: the first Aero’s low-wing cantilever monoplane with retractable landing gear, it could carry 6 passengers with 280 km/h speed.

A-202 (1934) was twin-engine cantilever low-wing monoplane airliner project with retractable landing gear, probably 14-seat (rival to Avia 57).

A-210 project looked like A-202 evolution but with four 550-hp Walter Sagitta inverted V12 engines, designed to carry 14 to 20 passengers.

A-212 (1937) project was kind of Ae-45 precursor but with more “conventional” appearance. The engines were Walter Minor (the particular version is not specified in Nĕmeček’s book), estimated maximum speed was 265 km/h.

Your text about A-204, 206, 300 and 304 needs some corrections. A-304 wasn’t refined A-300: actually it was earlier design and more closely related to basic civil A-204 – the only changes were more powerful engines (435-hp Super Castors instead of 360-hp Polluxes), a turret with single machine gun for defense and some additional equipment. The A-206 was projected as more specialized bomber, with much more powerful Bristol Mercury IX engines (650/830 hp) and redesigned fuselage; the project was presented in May 1936 but in July the National Defense Ministry required some changes (including twin-fin empennage). So, the project was changed ant then renamed – since January 1937 it became known as A-300.

Also, A-430 wasn’t built as a prototype under this name – it was initial designation of what became A-100.

Some postwar designs:
Ae-145 produced in 1959-61 was the second one; the first Ae-145 was designed in 1948-49 as larger 5-seat Ae-45 derivative with 160-hp Walter Minor 6-III engines and tricycle landing gear. Ae-245 was similar, also 5-seat but with a tailwheel. Finally, Ae-345 was combination of Minor 6-III engines and regular Ae-45 airframe. Any of these versions wasn’t built.

Ae-148 (1949) was airliner project for two pilots and 12 passengers, powered by two 700-hp air-cooled inverted Walter V-12 (M-446) engines. (Logically, it must have a precursor designated Ae-48, but such one isn't mention in Nĕmeček’s book).

L-229 was projected as single-seat light attack version of the L-29. It was armed with two machine guns (the former rear cockpit was used for the ammunition) and had underwing pylons for bombs and rockets. Kind of “L-159” from early 1960s, but unbuilt.

L-260 and L-360 both designed about 1960 were L-60 derivatives: the first with 240-hp Praga M-208D engine, the latter with 260-hp Ivchenko AI-14R radial. Both weren’t built, but much later (since middle ‘70s) all remaining L-60 were converted for AI-14R engines – this version was designated L-60S.

Another L-260 projected in 1970 was high-wing 10-seat multi-purpose aircraft with single M-601 turboprop, resembling popular Pilatus Turbo Porter. Kind of a precursor for the later high-wing L-270.

L-429 isn’t version of L-29A: both designations belong to the same aircraft – single-seat aerobatic version of regular L-29. In similar way, the recon L-329 was also designated L-29R.

According the gliders VT-16, 116, 100, VSB-62 and 66 – they have no connection to Aero at all. They were designed by independent design teams of Medlánky (VT) and Brno (VSB), and produced by Orličan company (successor of Beneš-Mráz).

"B-34 low-wing jet attack aircraft project powered by one RD-9 engine" – what’s the source?
 
Excellent my dear Redstar72,


thank you very very much,and I will re-set the list as in your message,and here is the source
of the B-34;
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2844.msg7135.html#msg7135


For the A.430,my source is A-Z magazine,and for the sailplanes my source is Jane's
all the World's Aircraft various edition books.
 
The LC-II (XE-II / XE-II-A) also included these variants (though they are all possibly the same airframe modified over again):

- XE-II-B - Cyclic control lever relocated above the pilot's head, first flew May 9, 1950.
- XE-II-C - Received a new type of rotor head and smaller tail rotor. Registration OK-FYA, became property of the Ministry of Transport in 1951.
- XE-II-D - (?) variant presented at Točná August 26, 1951.
- XE-II-E - Stabilizer added, fuselage fully enclosed.
- XE-II-F - Received stronger rotor blades. Crashed at the Chrudim airport in May 16, 1952. Pilot killed.
 
Was the Orličan firm directly related to Aero Vodochody? I thought that Orličan had taken over the former Beneš-Mráz plant at Choceň.
 
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Was the Orličan firm directly related to Aero Vodochody? I thought that Orličan had taken over the former Beneš-Mráz plant at Choceň.
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Yes my dear Apophenia,


my mistake,the Orlican was related to the former,Benes-Mraz Tovarna na Letadla.
 
From; Ceskoslovenske Letecvi 1918-1939;

A.211 was a two seat recce aircraft or Project ?,maybe related to A.11 ?.
 
The Aero A-211 was indeed an A-11 development (the 1928 prototype was converted from A-11.105) but it was a 2-seat trainer not a reconnaissance aircraft. The A-211 was powered by a 240 hp Walter Castor 7-cylinder radial. Built between 1931 and 1933, most sources list 18 airframes.
 
Hi,


LB P-1 was a development of Hodek HK.101,as a low-wing twin engined
high-speed trainer and courier monoplane,powered by two Walter Minor
6-III engine
LB P-2 --------?
LB P-3 was an assault and training transport glider Project,with weight of 2000 kg,later developed into Ae.53
LB P-4 to LB P-15 -------?
LB P-16 was a four-engined medium transport low-wing monoplane
of 1951,powered by four Walter M-436 engines
LB P-17 if possible,-------?
 
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From L + K 18/1979,

here is a designation LB-P-3,as training and assault transport glider,which maybe later became Ae.53,also
they spoke about LD-PO6 as heavy transport glider Project,but I don't know for which company ?.
 

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From L+K 2/1977,

the Aero Ab.111 was developed from Ab.11.
 

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Yes, in a nutshell, the Ab-11 was powered by a Breitfeld-Daněk BD Perun II, the Ab-111 by a BD Perun IIa. I'm not sure what the difference is with the engine sub-type (power ratings are the same).
 
LB 50 - different designation for Ae-50
LB 53 - 1948, two-tonnes light transport and trainer glider, two-piece cargo doors under tail boom, in three variants:
- LB 53a - wide-bodied, capable to lift jeep
- LB 53b - narrow-bodied
- LB 53c - slightly higher cargo load; project discontinued in 1952 before prototype was finished
LB 53 was also sometimes known as Ae-53
LB P3 - seems to be preliminary designation of LB 53
LB 60 - project designation for L-60/K-60 Brigadýr high-wing utility plane

LD PO6 (LD P06?) seems to be preliminary designation for LD 605 Habán 7 tonnes heavy transport glider, projected in a to h variants, differences unknown; discontinued just before LB 53. LD constrution group is mentioned as descendant of Aero designers and seems to be based in Prague at Central Aviation Bureau together with others, but given that its head was Ing. Beneš, it's also sometimes grouped with former Mráz company from Choceň.

That's all I found.
 
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Thank you my dear Aubi,

and what about the missing designation in postwar series; Ae 46,47,52,54,55,56 & 57 ?.
 

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