"Convair Deltas" by Bill Yenne

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Convair Deltas: From SeaDart to Hustler
[ISBN 978158007118]

price: £22.95

Product description
Available September 2009

Full history of all Delta-Wing Convair jets.

First work to feature the developmental history of all aircraft types.

Convair Deltas: From SeaDart to Hustler tells the compelling story of America's aerospace industry in its heyday, when manufacturers boldly took the initiative to explore futuristic new designs by actually building and test flying airplanes to determine how well they would work, if at all. Convair led the way in this area with America's only complete family of delta-wing aircraft that included America's first delta-wing jet, the one-of-a-kind XF-92 experimental prototype, the XF2Y-1 jet-powered seaplane, the XFY-1 Pogo turboprop vertical takeoff and landing fighter, the F-102 Delta Dagger and F-106 Delta Dart supersonic missile-firing interceptors, and the revolutionary record-breaking four-engine B-58 Hustler – the world's first Mach 2 strategic bomber. Noted aviation author Bill Yenne thoroughly documents Convair's quest to conquer the aerodynamic mysteries of the delta wing with stories of the dramatic struggles and technological breakthroughs that gave the world some of its greatest fighter and bomber aircraft.

See http://www.crecy.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=456&osCsid=tnvium117t3vodmf4d92clkvp5

 

[Deltafan]

It seems very interesting. Thanks Boxkite

 

[sferrin]

Just received notice from Amazon that my copy has shipped. Seems a steal at $21.75

 

[Orionblamblam]

Got my copy today. Nice book, but lean on the "projects."

 

[Michel Van]

the right ISBN number of the book is 9781580071185

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Convair-Deltas-Seadart-Bill-Yenne/dp/158007118X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253475007&sr=1-1

 

[sferrin]

Got my copy today. Nice book, but lean on the "projects."

Very lean. :'(

 

[Antonio]

Very lean.

Then I'm not interested on it

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Very lean.

Then I'm not interested on it

A book about planes that actually flew? It'll never sell

 

[aim9xray]

A book about planes that actually flew?

That's just crazy talk!

 

[Orionblamblam]

A book about planes that actually flew? It'll never sell

Indeed. And it's not just books.

"You want us to market model kits of the Messerschmitt 109, the Spitfire and the Mustang? That, sir, is crazysauce. The real money is in the Luftwaffle '46 line!"

 

[Skybolt]

And, this, dear fellows, is a real market shift. Hope it will last.

 

[lark]

Strange , but the photo of the Hustler on the cover of this book
is exactly the same as the one on 'Delta Wings-Convair high speed planes of the fifties&sixties'
published by Motorbooks International 1983 in the U.S and written by Charles A.Mendenhall (175p)...

 

[XP67_Moonbat]

Not a bad book. It's decent. I was worried I'd be getting an overpriced coffee table book. You know the type. Lot's of bright n' shiny pictures we've all seen a million times before and skimpy captions.

Not so, here. What I got a decent portrait of Convair's major delta-wing projects, their testing, and operation. It's about the same format as Dennis R Jenkins' books on the X-15 and XB-70.

as far as secret or unbuilt projects, very lean just like Scott said

Illustrations of the Mach 2 Sea Dart, a canard F-106 model, a brief chapter dealing with the "other Hustlers" including the Super Hustler, airliner Hustler, ASO.

I guess we'll see what other secret goodies were in Convair's bag when the Convair Secret Projects book comes out next month.

But this book was fine by me. I have a soft spot for Convair planes anyway.

 

[steelpillow]

Looks like a reprint or second edition is coming out soon:
http://www.crecy.co.uk/convair-deltas
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1580072313/ref=tmm_pap_new_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1253475007&sr=1-1

Does it discuss the aerodynamics issues much? I am especially interested in why the F-102A wing leading edge was given a characteristically conical droop at the same time as the fuselage was area-ruled. The XF-92, Sea Dart and original F-102 all had flat wings, while the F-102A, F-106 and B-58 all had that same conical droop.

Or would Mendenhall be a better bet?

 

[Sundog]

Looks like a reprint or second edition is coming out soon:
http://www.crecy.co.uk/convair-deltas
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1580072313/ref=tmm_pap_new_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1253475007&sr=1-1

Does it discuss the aerodynamics issues much? I am especially interested in why the F-102A wing leading edge was given a characteristically conical droop at the same time as the fuselage was area-ruled. The XF-92, Sea Dart and original F-102 all had flat wings, while the F-102A, F-106 and B-58 all had that same conical droop.

Or would Mendenhall be a better bet?

It's due to supersonic/conical flow. This Supersonic Flow PDF will elucidate it to you starting at the bottom of page 15. However, I recommend you read all of it.

 

[sferrin]

Looks like a reprint or second edition is coming out soon:
http://www.crecy.co.uk/convair-deltas
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1580072313/ref=tmm_pap_new_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1253475007&sr=1-1

Does it discuss the aerodynamics issues much? I am especially interested in why the F-102A wing leading edge was given a characteristically conical droop at the same time as the fuselage was area-ruled. The XF-92, Sea Dart and original F-102 all had flat wings, while the F-102A, F-106 and B-58 all had that same conical droop.

Or would Mendenhall be a better bet?

The F-15 has some of that too.

 

[steelpillow]

Looks like a reprint or second edition is coming out soon:
http://www.crecy.co.uk/convair-deltas
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1580072313/ref=tmm_pap_new_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1253475007&sr=1-1

Does it discuss the aerodynamics issues much? I am especially interested in why the F-102A wing leading edge was given a characteristically conical droop at the same time as the fuselage was area-ruled. The XF-92, Sea Dart and original F-102 all had flat wings, while the F-102A, F-106 and B-58 all had that same conical droop.

Or would Mendenhall be a better bet?

It's due to supersonic/conical flow. This Supersonic Flow PDF will elucidate it to you starting at the bottom of page 15. However, I recommend you read all of it.

Many thanks for this. There is much in there that I always wondered about. I would still like to know how the idea for the conical leading edge came to Convair's attention and how much of the knowledge available was theoretical vs. empirical.

 

[Krishna_j]

Sundog - thanks for the pdf link - can you give a link to the entire book

 

[Stargazer]

Sundog - thanks for the pdf link - can you give a link to the entire book

I doubt this kind of request can be made in the public place on this forum. It's not in the forum's rules to allow (or encourage) the sharing of full PDF books within its pages. It is best to consider asking this sort of things in a private message!

 

[Krishna_j]

Its not a "book" - it looks like notes from aircraft design lectures from Virginia Tech

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Google search :


https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=site:http://www.dept.aoe.vt.edu/~mason/Mason_f/+filetypedf

This gives all the pdfs from the same folder.

 

[Krishna_j]

thanks PaullMM

 

[XP67_Moonbat]

I noticed some of the (formerly) Specialty aviation titles get the paperback reprint treatment. It's for that reason the color illustration portion of my XF-12 Rainbow book is black-and-white.

 

[ov-101]

I noticed some of the (formerly) Specialty aviation titles get the paperback reprint treatment. It's for that reason the color illustration portion of my XF-12 Rainbow book is black-and-white.

The quality of print on demand (POD) book is far from perfect.

 

[XP67_Moonbat]

Yeah