Chinese Nanchang J-12 light fighter

[F.L.]

How about a thread on the J-12 ? I noticed that there was none !
It is a jet that I like and I will try to collect in this thread some interesting things about it.

 

[F.L.]

First, a three view blueprint !
What is the version of the J-12 on the bottom ?

 

[F.L.]

Interesting drawing of the first variant of the J-12 found on the Warthunder forum.

 

[hesham]

And here is a second attempt to develop or create J-12 or F-12.

 

[thefrecklepuny]

How about a thread on the J-12 ? I noticed that there was none !
It is a jet that I like very much and I will try to collect in this thread some interesting things about it.

I started to work with Inkscape and I hope to make color profiles of J-12 under the cockades of countries where it could have flown: Sudan, Tanzania, Somalia, North Korea ....

The Chinese F-100 Super Sabre!

 

[F.L.]

And here is a second attempt to develop or create J-12 or F-12.

Isn't this rather a fictitious artist's view ?
I don't believe there was a "F-12II" project like this ?

 

[hesham]

Isn't this rather a fictitious artist's view ?
I don't believe there was a "F-12II" project like this ?

What ?!,it was a real project,but it's not the final one.

 

[VictorXL188]

First, a three view blueprint !
What is the version of the J-12 on the bottom ?

I believe that it is a STOL variant, which was one of the primary ideas for the project, due to the presence of the doors on the upper dorsal part of the fuselage, similar to those fitted to the Su-15VD as seen in this pic. The J-12 was initially a day fighter only with no radar provision, but later was fitted with a centre body for the same radar as the early MiG-21, which was being built in China as the J-7.

 

[VictorXL188]

This pic of one of the later prototypes with the centre body, clearly shows the doors on the fuselage, although retracted in this example

 

[F.L.]

The J-12s "no suffix" also have these doors.
In addition, the "145 red" was a prototype of the J-12I, a variant designed to correct the problems of the J-12' s substandard performance & who first flew in 1975.
Moreover, "145 red" does not seem to have ventral nozzles.

 

[F.L.]

I am working on a text about J-12 where I am trying to compile as much information as possible...

 

[wildcat]

How about a thread on the J-12 ? I noticed that there was none !
It is a jet that I like very much and I will try to collect in this thread some interesting things about it.

I started to work with Inkscape and I hope to make color profiles of J-12 under the cockades of countries where it could have flown: Sudan, Tanzania, Somalia, North Korea ....

The Chinese F-100 Super Sabre!

actually J -12 may be more similar to Gnat, but a much more powerful version
a light fighter jet with very good maneuverability.but also have supersonic ability

 

[GUNDAM123dx]

https://web.archive.org/web/20240827171805/https://user.guancha.cn/main/content?id=437765
A repost of (till-now) the most detailed and trustworthy story of the development of J-12. In Chinese.

And a J-12 vs HA-300 data chart.
(Basically 99% of people here in China consider J-12 as the lightest supersonic jet fighter - as the article title in the link above, cuz few knows the HA-300.)

 

[GUNDAM123dx]

I am working on a text about J-12 where I am trying to compile as much information as possible...

See post#13

 

[F.L.]

I am working on a text about J-12 where I am trying to compile as much information as possible...

See post#13

Wahoo, what a great article !

 

[AE220]

This article says there were planned stealth and carrier based versions of the j-12. No idea how credible it is though

 

[AE220]

This article says there were planned stealth and carrier based versions of the j-12. No idea how credible it is though

update: it was only a proposal by the designer of the q-5 and some other aircraft

 

[Monk78]

Nanchang J-12 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Could it have success in export market
Have any appreciable advantage over MiG-21

 

[CV12Hornet]

I mean, it died in favor of the J-7, so the answer is no and no.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

If China didn't see any advantage, I don't think anyone else would?

 

[Cjc]

The j-12 Just came a little to late, If you told me this was a from the mid 50's (so during the same period as the mig-19 or f-100) then I would think it's a great aircraft. But the only thing it has on the mig-21 is cost (it's after all gust a one engine mig-19) and the mig-21 was already an extremely cheep aircraft.

 

[Monk78]

So what essentially you all are saying is that the mig21 fishbed was the minimum viable product for a point defense interceptor?