Bell Model 207 Sioux Scout

[GTX]

Folks,

Does anyone have a 3-view drawing of the Bell Model 207 Sioux Scout (see below)?


regards,

Greg

 

[Antonio]

I have a couple of pics from Putnam's "Bell Aircraft" but no 3-view drawing.

 

[GTX]

Yes, me too - it seems especially difficult to find a drawing though.

Regards,

Greg

 

[Tailspin Turtle]

Think of this as a drawing kit...

 

[Orionblamblam]

Think of this as a drawing kit...

Sigh... fine...



CAD work is now underway. So... who's willing to throw me a grant? I'm not greedy... a hundred grand will do just fine...

 

[Orionblamblam]

Progress. Purple lines are from TT's Model 47 drawing; blue lines from TT's 207 drawings. A lot lines up; a few things don't (like the landing skids, clearly not Model 47 standard, at least in placement). I expect to get it down to the rivet patterns eventually.

 

[Orionblamblam]

End of day one.

 

[GTX]

Think of this as a drawing kit...

Sigh... fine...



CAD work is now underway. So... who's willing to throw me a grant? I'm not greedy... a hundred grand will do just fine...

100,000 Thankyous are on their way.... ...probably not what you meant but still

Regards,

Greg

 

[Robert]

Just found this in my files...

 

[Orionblamblam]

Hey, that'll come in handy. I've been travelling for a while and unable to work on the drawing, but I'll get back to it as the situation permits.

 

[Stargazer]

A better resolution picture of the image posted at the top of the page.

Developed in 1963 by Textron's Bell Helicopter Company, Fort Worth, Texas, the Sioux Scout was presented to the Army Aviation Museum at Ft. Rucker, Ala., for permanent display. The Sioux Scout was developed to prove the concept of an integrated helicopter weapons system.

Source: Bell promotional photo


Topic moved to a more appropriate section.

 

[Triton]

Bell Helicopter Company photos of Model 207 Sioux Scout.

Source:
http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/16/t/56710.aspx

 

[mil]

good color photo

 

[Stargazer]

Amazing photo!! What magazine was this the cover of?

 

[yasotay]

I have always day dreamed about the Sioux Scout with a small turbine engine and a four blade rigid rotor sytem. Probably need a new tail rotor too, but ... what a fun aircraft that would have been to fly.

 

[mil]

address https://vtol.org/store/department/novelties-8.cfm?killnav=1

 

[mil]

there was also a 207

 

[mil]

address http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/bell-207-47-sioux-scout-prototype-helicopter

 

[fightingirish]

Source: Le Fana de L'Aviation 2000-07 (#368), page 16, in an article about the Lockheed AH-56A Cheyenne.

 

[yasotay]

I know, not a what ifs thread, but I could not resist.

 

[Jemiba]

..., but I could not resist.

But please, no with such a chopped off transition from the rotor to the tail section !

 

[Petrus]

Here you've got a few of photos of the Bell 207 found somewhere on the Intenet.
Piotr

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Is it in storage at the Fort Rucker Army Aviation Museum? Mark

 

[yasotay]

It is in short term storage at the Army Aviation Museum. Probably will be put back on display when the new extension is completed in a couple years.

 

[fightingirish]

Bell 207 Sioux Scout Photos
A few photos of the Bell 207 Sioux Scout prototype helicopter of 1963.

From Wikipedia:The Bell 207 Sioux Scout was a modified Bell 47 helicopter, developed by Bell Helicopter under contract from the United States Army, as a proof-of-concept demonstrator for the Bell D-255 helicopter gunship design, featuring a tandem cockpit, stub wings, and a chin-mounted gun turret.
Download here or here (2.6 Megs)

Source: http://aviationarchives.blogspot.com/2020/04/bell-207-sioux-scout-photos.html

 

[William207]

Think of this as a drawing kit...

You posted some drawings the appear to be pages from an original booklet that Bell produced about the 207 project. I got most of that book from Ft. Rucker where the one example of the 207 is housed. The Army's book at Rucker has pages missing. There were about 15 copies of this book passed out to key people. I'm looking for a complete book or the missing pages, most of the people that got books are dead. Bell says they gave everything to the Army. Where did you get that copy of that cross section drawing.

After getting DOD clearance, I went to Rucker and was granted access to the 207. We took hundreds of pics and detailed measurements.
I'm two years of intense work into duplicating a 207.

 

[yasotay]

Think of this as a drawing kit...

You posted some drawings the appear to be pages from an original booklet that Bell produced about the 207 project. I got most of that book from Ft. Rucker where the one example of the 207 is housed. The Army's book at Rucker has pages missing. There were about 15 copies of this book passed out to key people. I'm looking for a complete book or the missing pages, most of the people that got books are dead. Bell says they gave everything to the Army. Where did you get that copy of that cross section drawing.

After getting DOD clearance, I went to Rucker and was granted access to the 207. We took hundreds of pics and detailed measurements.
I'm two years of intense work into duplicating a 207.

When you say "I'm two years of intense work into duplicating a 207", do you mean that you are building a flying 207?

 

[William207]

Think of this as a drawing kit...

You posted some drawings the appear to be pages from an original booklet that Bell produced about the 207 project. I got most of that book from Ft. Rucker where the one example of the 207 is housed. The Army's book at Rucker has pages missing. There were about 15 copies of this book passed out to key people. I'm looking for a complete book or the missing pages, most of the people that got books are dead. Bell says they gave everything to the Army. Where did you get that copy of that cross section drawing.

After getting DOD clearance, I went to Rucker and was granted access to the 207. We took hundreds of pics and detailed measurements.
I'm two years of intense work into duplicating a 207.

When you say "I'm two years of intense work into duplicating a 207", do you mean that you are building a flying 207

Yes a full size copy, but with improvements to address the tail rotor bearing issues Bell had originally flying over 120mph. We have addressed the overheating problems as well that plagued the original ship. We have build a blue printed Lycoming 540 that should give us 325hp
I have several 47s one of was a H13 gunship equipped with two functional M37 Brownings. Warbird Digest did a photo shoot last month to go with article on the build, suppose to be out this spring I believe. So......This is not a first attempt at building a helicopter but it is a complex project.

 

[yasotay]

Well I wish the best of luck to you and your team in this endeavor. It would be great to see the progenitor of all modern attack helicopters flying again.

 

[Tailspin Turtle]

Think of this as a drawing kit...

You posted some drawings the appear to be pages from an original booklet that Bell produced about the 207 project. I got most of that book from Ft. Rucker where the one example of the 207 is housed. The Army's book at Rucker has pages missing. There were about 15 copies of this book passed out to key people. I'm looking for a complete book or the missing pages, most of the people that got books are dead. Bell says they gave everything to the Army. Where did you get that copy of that cross section drawing.

After getting DOD clearance, I went to Rucker and was granted access to the 207. We took hundreds of pics and detailed measurements.
I'm two years of intense work into duplicating a 207.

No joy - those were from a collection of lines drawings of various Bell helicopters that I happened to xerox many years ago when I worked there.

 

[jstar]

Think of this as a drawing kit...

You posted some drawings the appear to be pages from an original booklet that Bell produced about the 207 project. I got most of that book from Ft. Rucker where the one example of the 207 is housed. The Army's book at Rucker has pages missing. There were about 15 copies of this book passed out to key people. I'm looking for a complete book or the missing pages, most of the people that got books are dead. Bell says they gave everything to the Army. Where did you get that copy of that cross section drawing.

After getting DOD clearance, I went to Rucker and was granted access to the 207. We took hundreds of pics and detailed measurements.
I'm two years of intense work into duplicating a 207.

When you say "I'm two years of intense work into duplicating a 207", do you mean that you are building a flying 207

Yes a full size copy, but with improvements to address the tail rotor bearing issues Bell had originally flying over 120mph. We have addressed the overheating problems as well that plagued the original ship. We have build a blue printed Lycoming 540 that should give us 325hp
I have several 47s one of was a H13 gunship equipped with two functional M37 Brownings. Warbird Digest did a photo shoot last month to go with article on the build, suppose to be out this spring I believe. So......This is not a first attempt at building a helicopter but it is a complex project.

Keep us posted please.. pictures if possible. Be very interesting to see this flying.