Barrón and Loring aircraft

[c460]

Early aircraft designed by Eduardo Barrón and built by Talleres de Cuatro Vientos:
- Barrón Flecha, observation biplane, adapted from a Lohner design, 6 built in Cuatro Vientos, 12 built by Carde y Escoriaza, Zaragoza, 1915
- Barrón W, observation biplane, 12 built in Cuatro Vientos, 1915
- Barrón Delta, observation biplane, prototype built in Cuatro Vientos, 1916
- (Barrón Triplano), no-name triplane fighter, prototype built in Cuatro Vientos, 1917

Aircraft supervised by Barrón and built by Pujol in Barcelona:
- España, fighter biplane, adapted from the Spad VII, 12 built by Pujol, Comabella y Cía, later Loring, Pujol y Cía, 1917-18

Aircraft designed by Barrón for La Hispano in Guadalajara:
- Hispano-Barrón no-name observation biplane, prototype, 1919
- Hispano-Barrón no-name fighter biplane, prototype, 1919

Aircraft designed by Jorge Loring at Loring, Pujol y Cía in Barcelona, and built by Talleres Hereter:
- Loring no-name observation biplane, prototype, 1919 (competing with the Hispano-Barrón)

Project designed by Barrón and Martín-Barbadillo:
- Martín-Barbadillo no-name six-engine triplane, project only, 1919-20

Aircraft and projects designed by Barrón and built by Talleres Loring, Carabanchel, Madrid:
- Loring RB, observation monoplane, prototype, 1923 (source for the RB name is http://www.network54.com/Forum/394728/message/1207317130/Fotograf%EDas+de+aviones+Loring+por+cortes%EDa+de+Jos%E9+Luis+Gonz%E1lez+Serrano-)
- Loring R-I, two-seat biplane, observation and light bombing, 30 built, 1925
- Loring R-II, one prototype taking heavier load than the R.I, ca.1925, no other info
- Loring R-III, biplane, observation and light bombing, 4 prototypes (1926) and 110 series aircraft (1927)
- Loring T-I, biplane trainer and light aircraft, one prototype, 1926
- Loring C-I, fighter, one prototype, 1927 or 1928
- Loring B-I, commercial biplane for 5 passengers, derivative of the R.III, prototype, 1929 or 1930
- Loring B-II, six-engine commercial monoplane, construction started but not finished, 1930
- Loring E-I, two-seat twin-boom light monoplane, prototype, 1929
- Loring E-II, parasol wing light monoplane, at least 4 built, 1930
- (Loring Trimotor), no-name three-engine "colonial" aircraft, 1931

Probable meaning of the initials:
- RB = Reconocimiento Barrón (??)
- R = Reconocimiento
- T = Turismo (?)
- C = Caza
- B = Barrón (??)
- E = ??

Barrón left Loring in 1932, and the company was reorganized as AISA (Aeronáutica Industrial S.A.) in 1934.
Last aircraft named after Loring, built by AISA:
- Loring X, two-seat low-wing monoplane, 1934

Other aircraft built by Talleres Loring in Carabanchel, whose designations are not related to the above:
- Fokker C.IV, 20 built under license, 1924-25
- Fokker F.VIIb/3m, 3 built under license, 1932
- Cierva C-7 autogyro, also called Loring C-VII
- Cierva C-12 autogyro, also called Loring C-XII
In 1934, Loring became AISA (Aeronáutica Industrial Sociedad Anónima).

Main sources:
- Hispano-Suiza 1904-1972 – Hombres, empresas, motores y aviones by Manuel Lage, LID, 2003, ISBN 8488717296
- "Eduardo Barrón y Ramos de Sotomayor", by José Warleta Carrillo, in Aeroplano no.6, 1989

 

[hesham]

Well done C460.

 

[c460]

See drawings of R.I and R.III posted there:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,21617.0.html

 

[hesham]

The Loring Type X.

 

[Toryu]

Bomber two engines. By Eduardo Barrón and Herrera.

 

[hesham]

Amazing find Toryu,

many thanks,but what is your source ?.

 

[Toryu]

Amazing find Toryu,

many thanks,but what is your source ?.

Page 54. https://issuu.com/spanishatcmagazine/docs/atc_magazine_n__83_web/3

 

[hesham]

The Loring Trimotor was called T-3;

In 1930, encouraged by the state call for a competition to build a multi-engine commercial airplane, Barrón and Loring tackled two ambitious projects: the “Loring B-II” and the “Loring T-3”. The B-II, which never went beyond the mere project, was a monoplane hexamotor of colossal dimensions and revolutionary performance for its time: a planned load of up to 20,000 kilos and 50 people, a radius of action of 2000 km and engines of 600 to 1000 horsepower, capable of developing speeds between 300 and 400 km / h, installed inside the wing, whose height of two meters allowed it to house special propeller transmissions and facilitate the permanence of the mechanics during the flight in engine maintenance tasks. Although conceived for passenger transport, the B-II could also be used as a long-range bomber, equipped with five tons of bombs and seven machine guns located inside rotating turrets. However, in April 1930, within a few months of starting work on the B-II, Barrón suffered a cerebral attack that left him incapacitated, so the project ended in a dead end.

In 1931, the prototype of the T-3 came out, also known as the “Loring Trimotor” or “Barrón Colonial”. It was a high-wing aircraft, with capacity for 14 passengers plus three crew members, with a structure made entirely of steel and powered by three Dragon engines (manufactured in Spain by Elizalde). However, in 1932, after several flights without incident, the plane crashed in Cuatro Vientos, killing the crew, probably due to a break in the wing that in turn caused the fuselage tubes to twist.

Grandes Empresarios - Museo Virtual - Oficina Española de Patentes y Marcas

historico.oepm.es

Loring T-2, also known as B-1, prototype commercial biplane with capacity for 5 passengers; built in 1929 or 1930.

Talleres Loring - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

es.wikipedia.org

 

[Toryu]

The Loring Trimotor was called T-3;

In 1930, encouraged by the state call for a competition to build a multi-engine commercial airplane, Barrón and Loring tackled two ambitious projects: the “Loring B-II” and the “Loring T-3”. The B-II, which never went beyond the mere project, was a monoplane hexamotor of colossal dimensions and revolutionary performance for its time: a planned load of up to 20,000 kilos and 50 people, a radius of action of 2000 km and engines of 600 to 1000 horsepower, capable of developing speeds between 300 and 400 km / h, installed inside the wing, whose height of two meters allowed it to house special propeller transmissions and facilitate the permanence of the mechanics during the flight in engine maintenance tasks. Although conceived for passenger transport, the B-II could also be used as a long-range bomber, equipped with five tons of bombs and seven machine guns located inside rotating turrets. However, in April 1930, within a few months of starting work on the B-II, Barrón suffered a cerebral attack that left him incapacitated, so the project ended in a dead end.

In 1931, the prototype of the T-3 came out, also known as the “Loring Trimotor” or “Barrón Colonial”. It was a high-wing aircraft, with capacity for 14 passengers plus three crew members, with a structure made entirely of steel and powered by three Dragon engines (manufactured in Spain by Elizalde). However, in 1932, after several flights without incident, the plane crashed in Cuatro Vientos, killing the crew, probably due to a break in the wing that in turn caused the fuselage tubes to twist.

Grandes Empresarios - Museo Virtual - Oficina Española de Patentes y Marcas

historico.oepm.es

Loring T-2, also known as B-1, prototype commercial biplane with capacity for 5 passengers; built in 1929 or 1930.

Talleres Loring - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

es.wikipedia.org

Loring T-3 "colonial"

 

[Toryu]

Barrón Loring BI

 

[Toryu]

Loring RB with engine of 300HP Hispano suiza

 

[Toryu]

Loring T1 de entrenamiento con motor 300HP
Velocidad máxima 222 km / h
Longitud: 9m

 

[hesham]

From, Aviones Espanoles del siglo XX,

I don't know if we spoke about it here or not ?;

Loring-Pujol E.I
School and touring biplane, tested in 1918 by Domingo Rosillo.
Equipped with a Le Rhône of 60 HP, only one copy was built.

 

[Toryu]

¿Loring B-II de seis motores?

 

[Apophenia]

Just a few images ... Loring-Pujol E.I (E-1), Barrón Flecha, Barrón Delta, and Barrón España.

 

[Toryu]

Loring B.I

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/cw1/loringb1.html

Wingspan: 14,5m
Length: 10,2m
Engine: 1 Hispano-Suiza 12HB of 500hp
Crew: 1
Payload: 5 Passangers

 

[Toryu]

FOUR ENGINE OF MARTÍN-BARBADILLO.
In 1916 this apparatus for civilian use was designed. I do not have much data about it, except that it was a triplane of four engines of 250 hp each and an estimated cruising speed of 150km / h. It had a capacity of 23 passengers, plus the pilot and a crew member (I find it strange that it is not double control) and sink installed. It was designed to make the journey from Madrid-Córdoba-Seville-Cádiz. There would still be one more version that we will see in the future.

SIX ENGINE OF MARTÍN-BARBADILLO
This second version is from 1918. It has the fuselage elongated to accommodate, this time, 40 passengers plus two crew and you can see how the engines are arranged in tandem pairs. The only data I have are the 27 tons of weight (I guess at takeoff) and 35kg per square meter of wing loading.

From Revista de Aeronáutica y Astronáutica Nº 306

 

[Toryu]

Loring B.II

From the book "Hispano Suiza in aeronautics".
As new data, approximate length of 30m and 50 of wingspan. Six Hispano Suiza 12 Lbr of 600hp or HS 18 Sbr of 1000hp engines.

 

[Toryu]

In colour