BAE UAS Concepts (2022)

[zebedee]

BAE SYSTEMS throwing their hat into the ring...

The Drive: New Unmanned Combat Aircraft Designs Revealed By BAE Systems

BAE SYSTEMS: UAS Concepts

"UAS Concepts being developed within our Air sector offer the potential to enhance the operational effect of current and future crewed platforms, by augmenting the force mix through affordable combat power. "

Zeb

 

[flateric]

Wonder what it is on a timeline between Taranis and Phasa-35 and what is that MALE between Taranis and HERTI

 

[Forest Green]

Wonder what it is on a timeline between Taranis and Phasa-35

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Looks like FOAS.

 

[flateric]

Looks like FOAS.

Really looks alike (apart of timeline and the same scale concept)?

 

[Forest Green]

Really looks alike (apart of timeline and the same scale concept)?

True, FOAS came before Taranis and if it's to scale, then it looks more like a drone.

 

[zebedee]

Report from Flight at RIAT...

BAE Systems unveils new unmanned concepts at RIAT

Zeb

 

[flateric]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548399792882982914

View: https://twitter.com/FlightAcesHigh/status/1548399792882982914

 

[flateric]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548347000906665984

View: https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1548347000906665984

 

[flateric]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547615176261652490

View: https://twitter.com/QE1045/status/1547615176261652490

 

[weirc]

The MALE between Taranis and HERTI is probably Mantis.

Colin

 

[Hood]

So Project Mosquito for a LANCA is cancelled one week and then BAE Systems pops up with a LANCA concept the next week....

This (full scale?) model looks very similar to a small scale model revealed at RIAT in 2019: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/uk-mod-project-lanca-raf-loyal-wingman.30656/#post-357678

 

[timmymagic]

I think its Typhoon, Fury, Mantis, Taranis, Sexiest FCAS image they could find..., Phasa 35, UCAS 1, UCAS 2, Tempest..

 

[red admiral]

This (full scale?) model looks very similar to a small scale model revealed at RIAT in 2019: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/uk-mod-project-lanca-raf-loyal-wingman.30656/#post-357678

Pretty much all the configurations proposed are similar apart from Ghost Bat. BAES are just a few years late in making their plastic model. They had zero to do with the one at previous RIAT.


That MALE UAS isnt Mantis - no stub wing for the engines

 

[CiTrus90]

Given the absence of Replica's silhouette, I'm more inclined to think that the unknown one might be Nightjar rather than FOAS. But it's just an hunch, since we know very little of the program.

Edit:
a bit more on why I think this might be Nightjar.
The graphic is suggestive of the evolution from the capability of a multirole combat aircraft like the Typhoon, passing through several BAE systems UAS and finally culminating into the Tempest at the end.
The line from the Typhoon to the Tempest diverges into several lines, possibly as a nod to the distributed nature of the Future Combat Air System (of which Tempest is just the manned part).
So there would be no need to depict Replica or FOAS, or any other aircraft not involved in the FCAS concept, thus confirming that the graphic is not meant to showcase the various projects BAE has worked on from the Typhoon onwards.
The silhouettes of the various aircraft are more or less chronologically lined up (HERTI 2004-2007, Mantis 2009, Taranis 2010, the unknown one, PHASA-35 2018-2020, UAS 1 2022, UAS 2 2022, Tempest 2035), Around the same time Taranis was being developed, Nightjar was under study as well.

 

[flateric]

I always thought that Nightjar / Nightjar-2 were risk reduction programs that didn't include actual full-scale flight vehicles. Moreover, they preceeded Taranis (if we keep on timeline chart theory).

 

[CiTrus90]

I always thought that Nightjar / Nightjar-2 were risk reduction programs that didn't include actual full-scale flight vehicles. Moreover, they preceeded Taranis (if we keep on timeline chart theory).

You are correct. I should have said a "Nightjar" spawn, rather than Nightjar proper.

The aim of the Nightjar programme was to explore the integration of new airframe features, which could be critical for the future of air vehicle design. The programme provided stepped increases in valuable data on issues surrounding design, aerodynamics, manufacturing and in-service performance limits.

Given the scope of the program, with a focus on future aircraft designs, and its sensitive nature, I think something might have been flown to test those features. Taranis might have been the white world version of the test program.

But it's only speculation on my part, so not worth much.

 

[TomcatViP]

The drone with the meteor missile is rather weird looking. You've to wonder who's designed to carry who b/w the two?!

 

[bobbymike]

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