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So how did Grumman get involved in the in the F-4 (FV)S? (See Circle-5's model above). I'd be surprised if, at any point in the F-111B/F-14 evolution, they became so discouraged that they'd seek to remanufacture Phantoms. Once the TFX award went to GD/Grumman, I'd think that McDonnell would have been the natural source of any Phantom-based proposals.