vstol carriers

  1. uk 75

    Tiger class cruisers opinions

    The three Tiger class cruisers arouse strong opinions. As the only major non-carrier RN warships built after WW2 they mark the transition of the RN from a force built round its battleships' big guns to a missile dominated navy. The 6" and 3" guns fitted to them were supposed to be a new approach...
  2. J

    Tales of past future. Some essays about the VSTOL carrier.

    Érase una vez sólo dos bandos (y sabías qué esperar) y había un país llamado Unión Soviética. Y el portaaviones era la especie dominante en los mares (Cuanto más grande era el portaaviones, más felices eran los almirantes), pero este tipo de barcos son muy caros, tan caros que parecía que iban a...
  3. uk 75

    HMS Hermes as Sea Control Ship

    The saga of HMS Hermes is well known. But it might have been different if the RN had followed the US example and kept her as an ASW carrier or interim Sea Control Ship. The US were introducing the S3 Viking on to their attack carriers but were keen to get as many to sea as possible. HMS Hermes...
  4. A

    Harrier in place of Super Etendard: 1973

    This is a rough TL sketch. POD is October 20, 1971. http://www.ffaa.net/projects/jaguar/jaguar_fr.htm That day, off Marseille, the Foch is flight testing Jaguar M05, that is: the navalized fifth prototype. As the aircraft is returned to the hangar for maintenance, one mechanic raise alarm...
  5. A

    Zumwalt "borrows" (and adapts) European carrier designs...

    ... instead of re-inventing the wheel in the 70's. The idea is to blend together, Zumwalt "cheaper decks" (SCS / VSS / CVV) and the too few carrier designs from Europe. To bolster NATO fleets on one side, and the USN on the other - more flattops on both sides of the Atlantic. That is...
  6. P

    Late 1960's USN Fletcher-class 'Harrier Carrier' concept

    Here's a really interesting account I found on Project Terminated, by Ronnie Serrano: '... a couple drawings were done by Pierre Mion for the U.S Navy in the late-1960s which shows using converted Fletcher-class destroyers into makeshift "Harrier Carriers". The plan at the time is to convert...
  7. Tzoli

    Peruvian Navy Never-Were Designs

    For request here are my knowledge on the Peruvian Navy Never-Were warship designs or export designs offered for them. Coastal Battleship: Armstrong Design 783P of 1914: 7.350tons, 2x2 203mm, 6x1 152mm, 2x1 457mm Torpedoes, 178mm Belt Battleships: Vickers Design 512 of 1911: 11.500tons, 2x2...
  8. archipeppe

    The first "Trieste"

    In "Storia Militare" n. 196 (January 2010) Enrico Cernuschi described the unknown project of an early Italian helicopter/VTOL carrier of 60's. During 1965 the Italian Navy seriously considered the possibility to modify the proposed second "Vittorio Veneto" cruiser into a sort of small carrier...
  9. uk 75

    Royal Navy Escort Cruiser again

    Some time ago, we managed (thanks to JFC Fuller) to get some decent info on the proposed 1962 Royal navy Escort Cruiser https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1600.msg184219.html#msg184219 Unfortunately as so often the thread go sidelined into discussions on launcher...
  10. Z

    Alternative RN from 1983

    1983, rather than 1982 is a key date for decisions for the RN and UK defence as a whole, in the light of the Falklands and it's effect not just on defence thinking but on the UK populace's attitude to their country. As surely as it was to the political establishment. But in terms of changes a...
  11. Triton

    JMSDF CVH helicopter carrier

    From Ronnie Serrano on the "Project Terminated" page on Facebook: Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=876967599032670&set=gm.646696872124265&type=1&theater
  12. Mike Pryce

    Australian Invincible

    Image of the Vickers proposal for a modified Invincible Class ship to replace HMAS Melbourne. The enlarged hangar and removal of Sea Dart are of note. Also Invincible image for comparison. Found at: http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/topic/24222
  13. uk 75

    US Navy Escort ships in the 60s and 70s

    Reading the excellent Friedman books on US Destroyers and US Cruisers as well as the History of the Spruance class-Electronic Greyhounds-forgot the author I am always fascinated by the range of options which the US Navy might have had in the 60s and 70s if there had been no Vietnam War to force...
  14. Triton

    Izumo Class 22DDH Helicopter Destroyer

    Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) 22DDH helicopter destroyer. Source: http://snafu-solomon.blogspot.com/2010/06/22ddh-japans-next-helicopter-carrier.html http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/6-62389.aspx http://oursogo.com/thread-1155047-1-1.html
  15. Mike Pryce

    Great Harrier footage

    This YouTube video has some really good footage of Harriers, plus some other aircraft (Sea Vixens - yay!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjRdNwcWsZE I especially like the Sea Harrier in nuclear strike configuration (WE177 and tank) preparing to launch at 20:37 and the 'Captain Pugwash'...
  16. Antonio

    Invincible class - notes

    Found a couple of notes on Invincible class from my Aviation & Marine International magazine collection September 1979: April 1976:
  17. Anderman

    Alternative Invincible Class Ideas

    During the development of the Invincible a 12 500 t helicopter cruiser was planed as an alternative to the later build ships does somebody has more data or drawings on ship ships ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_class_aircraft_carrier thanks Edit: looks like this topic was already...
  18. Triton

    UK replenishment ship/helicopter carrier studies circa 1980

    About 1980, there was a considerable number of design studies into ships that combined the role of replenishment and helicopter carrier in different proportions to create a "cheap" carrier. The simplest variants had a box hanger forward and a big deck with three landing spots aft. This...
  19. Triton

    Through-deck cruiser: the new capital ship

    "Through-deck cruiser: the new capital ship", Michael A Cairl, US Naval Institute Proceedings, December 1978 Yet another late 1970's proposal to replace expensive US Navy supercarriers and their escorts with presumably cheaper ship types. This time it's a hybrid warship called a "through-deck...
  20. Triton

    Commander Ghiradella's Air-Capable Spruance

    Commander Ghiradella's Air-Capable Spruance was a proposal for a modified flight deck Spruance-class destroyer that appeared in the article "Maintaining a Western Carrier Capability" in the journal US Naval Institute Proceedings, July 1978. Some references incorrectly identify this design as the...
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