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  1. Grey Havoc

    Development of the Fast Mine Warfare Ship 343 (West Germany, 1970s / 1980s)

    The rest of the article can be found reproduced in the JPRS / West Europe Report (15th June, 1983) linked below, pdf pages 7 - 14: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA373042.pdf A bit more of the history, in particular the post-Cold war part of it, can be found in the archived Forecast...
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    • 1970s 1980s bundesmarine cold war fast mine warfare vessel fast minesweeper federal republic of germany fleet and coastal minehunters (mhc) frankenthal-class mhc hamen-class fast minesweeper mine warfare vessel minelayer north atlantic treaty organisation post-cold war schnelles minenkampfboot schnelles minensuchboot west germany western europe
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    • Forum: Secret Naval Projects
  2. uk 75

    Could NATO Frigate 90 have been made to work?

    Perhaps the most ambitious NATO programme of the 1980s was an attempt to design a common escort ship platform for NATO navies: NATO Frigate 90. https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/nfr-90-and-other-pre-horizon-aaw-projects.923/ The project foundered as it became too expensive and failed to...
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    • 1980s 1990s alternate history anti-air warfare anti-submarine warfare anti-surface warfare bundesmarine cold war frigate marina militare marine nationale maritime command (canadian armed forces) north atlantic treaty organisation royal navy royal netherlands navy royal spanish navy united states navy
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    • Forum: Alternative History and Future Speculation
  3. Voltzz

    Low Cost Anti-submarine Weapon (LCAW)

    LCAW was a NATO program for an small torpedo, cheap/expendable enough to be use against unidentified/unverified sonar contacts. It was supposed to have both rocket-launched and helicopter-dropped version. At first it was a trilateral US, German Norwegian project, but some point ~1990 The US...
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    • asw bundesmarine cold war federal republic of germany kingdom of norway north atlantic treaty organisation post-cold war royal norwegian navy torpedo united states united states navy west germany
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    • Forum: Secret Missile, Bomb and Gun Projects
  4. uk 75

    West German Bundesmarine Naval Projects

    Just bought the 1968/9 and 1969/70 Jane's Fighting Ships and found two interesting West German naval projects which were planned for the 1970s but were different from the final vessels. The first is for 16 missile equipped fast patrol boats. These would carry the Tartar missile system in...
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    • bundesmarine cold war early 1970s federal republic of germany late 1960s west germany
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    • Forum: Secret Naval Projects
  5. uk 75

    A NATO frigate

    Wiki has quite a good summary of the abortive attempt in the 1980s to design a common escort ship for NATO navies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFR-90 The thread about the Kidds for the RN reminded me of this programme. It ought to have been possible to design a ship flexible enough to...
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    • 1980s anti-air warfare anti-submarine warfare anti-surface warfare bundesmarine cold war frigate marina militare marine nationale maritime command (canadian armed forces) north atlantic treaty organisation royal navy royal netherlands navy royal spanish navy united states navy
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    • Forum: Alternative History and Future Speculation
  6. helmutkohl

    What if Germany went through with VTOL aircraft?

    Germany was experimenting with various VTOL aircraft during the cold war in the end they didn't go for any of them. in this alternate scenario.. what if Germany did order some into production? 1. Which design would be the most likely to lead to operation? they had the VAK 191, DO 31 (this...
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    • alternate history bundesmarine cold war federal republic of germany jet age kommando der marineflieger luftwaffe marineflieger north atlantic treaty organisation nuclear battlefield v/stol aircraft vstol vtol west germany
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    • Forum: Alternative History and Future Speculation
  7. J

    Saunders Roe SR.53

    Pics , drawings ,models and book
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    • 1950s bundesmarine cold war early 1960s fleet air arm great britain interceptor kommando der marineflieger marineflieger royal air force royal navy saunders-roe west germany
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    • Forum: Secret Postwar Aircraft Projects
  8. S

    German Navalized ROLAND-II SAM system

    In the early to mid 1970's the German navy was experimenting with the navalization of both the Gepard SPAA gun system and the ROLAND-II surface to air missile system. I was wondering does anyone know if these systems were ever tested successfully and ever used? I remember seeing them in a old...
    • silkmonkey
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    • aérospatiale bundesmarine bundeswehr cold war federal republic of germany french fifth republic marine nationale mbb messerschmitt-bölkow-blohm north atlantic treaty organisation surface to air missile surface-to-air missile west germany
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    • Forum: Secret Naval Projects
  9. airman

    Weser Tilt Rotor Designs

    Than the "Weser-Flugzeugbau GmbH" was active also after wwii ! :o :o
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    • bundesmarine bundeswehr cold war deutsches heer vtol weser ag weser flugzeugbau weser-flugzeugbau gmbh weserflug west germany
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    • Forum: Secret Postwar Aircraft Projects
  10. sferrin

    ANS French/German supersonic antiship missile.

    A picture from an 80's military advertisement lead to these other two images. Interesting similiarities between the 25 year old ANS test vehicle and Taiwan's recent supersonic cruise missile. ;) (The ad is aerospatiale.)
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    • aérospatiale anti-ship anti-ship missile anti-surface warfare asuw british aerospace plc bundesmarine cold war federal republic of germany france french fifth republic great britain hawker siddeley dynamics marine nationale mbb north atlantic treaty organisation royal navy supersonic west germany
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    • Forum: Secret Missile, Bomb and Gun Projects
  11. hesham

    Heinkel He 212 / VFW VC-400 tandem tiltwing

    My dear Jemiba, Did you hear about the Heinkel He 212 army reconnaissance tilt propeller aircraft project ? thanks in advance.
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    • bundesmarine bundeswehr cold war deutsches heer federal republic of germany heinkel heinkel flugzeugwerke north atlantic treaty organisation vereinigte flugtechnische werke vtol west germany
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    • Forum: Secret Postwar Aircraft Projects
  12. P

    Saunders Roe P.177 / SR.177

    I've cut and pasted this from another site SR.177 is a mixed powerplant interceptor and quite a flexible design to boot. Japan had a look at it too, and at one point examined weather to buy the SR.53's. and the production jigs. Had it entered service, its most likely the RAF and RN would...
  13. boxkite

    Messerschmitt designations (post-war and pre-MBB)

    Sorry for the delay, I was busy with non-aviation things :( . Here are the P xxxx numbers of unbuilt Messerschmitt/MBB projects (mainly source is “Willy Messerschmitt – Pionier der Luftfahrt und des Leichtbaues” by Ebert, Kaiser and Peters/ISBN 3-7637-6103-9): · P 1118 – four-seat touring...
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    • bundesmarine bundeswehr cold war federal republic of germany kommando der marineflieger luftwaffe marineflieger messerschmitt messerschmitt gmbh occupied germany west germany
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    • Forum: Designation Systems
  14. overscan (PaulMM)

    VFW VTOL aircraft

    VFW-Fokker VC180 (text to follow)
    • overscan (PaulMM)
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    • bundesmarine bundeswehr cold war deutsches heer federal republic of germany north atlantic treaty organisation v/stol aircraft vereinigte flugtechnische werke vtol west germany
    • Replies: 29
    • Forum: Secret Postwar Aircraft Projects
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