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    A-4X

    Yup, that completely blew my mind recently. The J52 went through the Viggen via a civilian variant from an airliner. Of course they had to create an afterburner for it, as neither a Scooter nor an airliner had it in the first place.
  2. A

    Supersonic Etendards instead of Crusaders?

    Atar 8K50 was a non afterburning 9K50. The former for the S.E the latter for the F1. Check my thread to see what a mixed F1 / S.E might have been. Of course the J52 of Skyhawk fame had better potential including with an afterburner. Guess what ? the S.E nearly got a Skyhawk engine in '73. The...
  3. B

    An alternate F-11 Tiger

    There are sooooooo many fun little combos just waiting to happen. As was pointed out to me.. the J-52 is a derivative of the J-57 so you could use a scaled down version of the AB from it if you are wanting. I think the max width on the J-65 in the Tiger was at the AB which was 41 inches...
  4. C

    Northrop goes early with 1-engined F-5?

    An afterburning variant of the Pratt & Whitney J52 turbojet is the PW1216 which was proposed as one of several powerplant options for the cancelled US-Pakistan Grumman Project Sabre II.
  5. Lascaris

    Three generations of Northrop naval fighters?

    Thing is you DON'T need a afterburner for a J52 F-5. It's dry thrust depending on model goes from equal to the max thrust installed in the Canadian F-5As (8,500 to 8,600) to 20% more than F-5E (12,000 to 10,000). You just made F-5... supercruising.
  6. E

    V-601 - Vought's MiGs

    Considering that an afterburning J52 was one of the engines considered for one of the FC-1s predecessor designs, I don't think it too outlandish, esp. since there was an afterburning version of its turbofan cousin. For a MiG-21 'clone', a J79 makes a lot of sense since it's much the same type...
  7. Lascaris

    Northrop goes early with 1-engined F-5?

    Unconnected but I always wondered how exactly AFVG was supposed to work as a fighter with such anemic engines.
  8. C

    Three generations of Northrop naval fighters?

    I found these information about the non-afterburning derivatives of the General Electric F404 turbofans in Turbofan and Turbojet Engines: Database Handbook (2007) by Élodie Roux: SOURCE: Roux, Élodie. (2007). Turbofan and Turbojet Engines: Database Handbook (pp. 181, 183). Blagnac, France...
  9. B

    Three generations of Northrop naval fighters?

    I remember something like that convo in regards a low end version of the super tiger for non nato nations and a single engine F-5 yeah it would have been a totally sweet little package given that the J-85 on AB was a thirsty little hippo EDIT: Another fun one, though utterly irresponsible and...
  10. A

    Northrop goes early with 1-engined F-5?

    Fun fact I learned from another thread: if you want an afterburner for the J52, ask SAAB. The Viggen engine was a civilian J52 developped for airliners, to which they added an afterburner (that's how I remember the whole story, I could be wrong). I'm still rooting for Sud Aviation F-5s...
  11. S

    Northrop goes early with 1-engined F-5?

    Well, bugger. Okay, afterburning J52 in the "single engine F-5E/F". If people buy lots of those, then you can look at swapping the J52 with the F404 for some F-5G/Hs among everyone who bought the F-5E/Fs in the mid 1980s.
  12. K

    Northrop goes early with 1-engined F-5?

    The J52 would've been interesting as a parallel project with the F-5E given the evolution of the J52 timeline and it's compact size, weight, and fuel efficiency for its time. Thrust to weight ratio isn't nearly as good as the J85, or the J101 (or later F404), but it's better than pretty much all...
  13. BlackBat242

    No F-404 family (foreign developments)

    In the short term, fitting the 11,200 lb.s.t. J52-408 with an afterburner (or using J79s) would have powered at least prototypes of most F-404-powered aircraft. It also depends on where you kill the engine... at the GE1 (initial concept prototype) stage? The YJ101 (engine that powered the...
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    An alternate F-11 Tiger

    Eh, I wouldn't take the RM8 as much of a basis for J52 development. The Swedes almost entirely redesigned the JT8D to make it suitable for supersonic flight - it got new fans, turbines, fuel control, and a new combustion chamber. However, there was one afterburning variant, designed by the...
  15. overscan (PaulMM)

    Engines under consideration for the early Sabre II / Super-7 !!

    http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1987/1987%20-%201876.html
  16. E

    A-4X

    And a J52 with an afterburner almost made it as the PW1216 for the aborted "Super -7". I have seen Northrop's response to IAI on the Lavi, working from the original concept with the F404. Northrop proposed a couple different blendings of the Lavi with the F-5G/F-20 and taking advantage of the...
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    An alternate F-11 Tiger

    With the AB, the Atar 9 was about 6.2m vs the 8 at 3.9m or so. I may be wrong here, but weren't the ABs of the time for comparable turbojets all about 2m in length? Also, the IVB had an Avon and for the SuE, the J52 was seriously considered. But AFAIK, never an afterburning engine. My...
  18. Deino

    Engines under consideration for the early Sabre II / Super-7 !!

    Hi guys ... I need some help regarding the engines under consideration for the very early "Sabre II" / "Super-7" because I found some very crude "babelfish" translations of early engine-"competition" when Western assistance was still under way ! All what I could extract is that there were the...
  19. D

    HF-24 Marut derivatives & projects

    Would it still have been twin engined, or would it be able to achieve Mach 2 using a single higher thrust afterburning engine?
  20. BlackBat242

    A-4 Skyhawk bring back the concept for the 21st century

    J52: -6A/B (early A-4E & A-6A/EA-6A): 2,056lb weight, 8,500 lb thrust. -8A/B (late A-4E/A-4F & A-6E/KA-6D): 2,118 lb weight, 9,300 lb thrust. -408 (A-4M & EA-6B): 2,318 b weight, 11,200 lb thrust. F404-100D (F-117 & A-4SU*): 1,830 lb weight, 11,000 lb thrust. F412 (A-12): 13,000 lb thrust -...
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