...a 3 stage rocket from Cluster of fuel tanks
7 tanks in first stage 3 in second and Coralie as Third stage
is Europa IIIE identical with Supervulcain B ?
got some one info about this, Please !
in end Europa IIIB was the winner and later reborn as Ariane 1
source (in German)...
...you for the links which will help solving intricate details on the clustered Catherine (and possibly Octavie) first stages of Vulcain, Supervulcain and Bacchus.
It's right on time as I'm doing the drawings for these projects, to be printed later.
Also when I visited this forum earlier I got...
I've found the abstract of a tech paper, related to Europa III-E.
" Use of existing systems ASTRIS stage 3 and RUBIS stage 4 of EUROPA I / II and an L.R.B.A. 40 ton engine , use of the parallel staging principle resulting in a consequent module design ( stages 1 and 2 feature the same standard...
Flight Global archive is my friend!! :D
I've made a search using one of the various names of Diamant derivatives (notably supervulcain B)
Result was a nice article http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1968/1968%20-%200795.html
Btw I've also found more datas about the...
...skimmed the 317 and 324 (not 322!) for data on Europa III-E. Michel you was spot on - there's a legacy between Europa III-E and the 1968 SuperVulcain B. Looks like the German liked the concept, and (with the LRBA) upgraded it around the turbopump-fed Viking. From Air&Cosmos description that...
I've found the missing link between Europa IIIB and the L3S, future Ariane.
Europa IIIB had an HM-20 cryogenic second stage - too much risk. The HM-20 later evolved into the HM-60, then into the Vulcain. But it took a lot of time and money.
Before the L3S, France proposed a variant of Europa...
...(dang, that was TEN YEARS AGO. time flies !)
The concept of clustering Diamants stems back from 1968, with the Supervulcain B proposal which was as big as a Soyuz rocket. It was France ultimate Diamant development, but soon Viking and Ariane went into a different direction - turbopump...
...Régent, Diogène 2, Turquoise C and H.
Then the LRBA's liquid fuel launchers:
Carmen :
Vulcain C, P and H :
Bacchus and Supervulcain 2 :
After assembly and priming, this second group joined the first for general painting.
After masking the parts that will remain metallic...
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