Saunders-Roe P.187 : F.155T contender

Hi!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/68286707@N00/15645403895

http://www.spaceuk.org/sr53/f155/f155.htm
"The design had some points of interest: a sliding nose was fitted, so that the pilot had a better view on landing, yet the aircraft would be aerodynamically smoother at high speeds. Elaborate arrangements were also made for enabling the 2 crew members to eject safely."

http://www.strange-mecha.com/aircraft/Concept/UK-SARO.htm
Saunders-Roe P.187 Rocket with Jet Intercepter Project
Length : 25.4m
Wing Span: 15.7m
Wing Area : 80.8 Square Meter
All-Up Weight : 43,999Kg
Engine :
De Havilland PS52 Gyron Turbojet (11,340Kg) X 2
Spectre Rocket (1,814Kg) X 4
Max Speed : 2,983Km/h (Mach 2.5)
Service Ceiling : 23,165m
Armament : Red Dean AAM X 2 or Blue Jay Mk.4 AAM X 2

Three side view drawing and model picture source : AIR ENTHUSIAST 61.
Radar operater window are small same as Sea vixen.
You can see accurate very complicated window shape in three side view plan view and model picture.

That was one hell of a monster interceptor. Pure brute power.

Archibald said:

That was one hell of a monster interceptor. Pure brute power.

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Yes. It's very hard for me to understand her full‐bosomed style exactly. ;D
I believe only Jozef-san can understand this aircraft by his 3D modeling.

http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ujed2r1qs2pljpj8isg6186935&topic=5284.300

Don't forget this:

P.187
source: Le Fana de l'Aviation/Tony Buttler

Hi!
I can see four Spectre Rocket nozzle in this model.
De Havilland PS52 Gyron Turbojet two exhaust nozzles are located under the rocket nozzles.

Something of a familial resemblance to the 53 and 177, so, did SR have a problem with originality?

I think she is a glamor beauty.

Foo Fighter said:

Something of a familial resemblance to the 53 and 177, so, did SR have a problem with originality?

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Not really, they just like their rockets.

Ahhh Saro's P187.....

The only design to carry the full weapon load and meet the performance criteria.

What a beast.

zen said:

Ahhh Saro's P187.....

The only design to carry the full weapon load and meet the performance criteria.

What a beast.

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No, the only design to ignore the clarification that the IR and radar missile loads were alternatives and NOT required to be carried simultaneously.

Foo Fighter said:

Something of a familial resemblance to the 53 and 177, so, did SR have a problem with originality?

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SR.177 was a productionised SR.53 and the 187 was almost contemporary with the 177, so it's hardly surprising.

Foo Fighter said:

Something of a familial resemblance to the 53 and 177, so, did SR have a problem with originality?

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Saunders-Roe came out of left field to fly the 53 and have the 177 essentially ready to start building before the axe dropped, but even then they were working overtime. They were a small firm with not much time for originality, and it's quite understandable that their response to an even more demanding specification should be to scale up directly as much as they could. Evidently they decided they had to go big or go home on the powerplant, because they make the leap from one Gyron Junior and one Spectre to two full-size Gyrons and FOUR Spectres.

Of course it meant that even the people who WANTED the F.155T thought this monster was too big and expensive.

overscan (PaulMM) said:

No, the only design to ignore the clarification that the IR and radar missile loads were alternatives and NOT required to be carried simultaneously.

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I seem to recall the phrase "impossible to carry simultaneously", but I'm still not sure if they mean technically impossible without reservation (drastically wrong, as even the Delta Dagger could show you), or whether they considered it impossible to meet the spec aerodynamically while carrying both 2 x IR (Red Top) and 2 x SARH (Red Hebe) missiles.

Hi!

I can barely put an Airfix kit together without screwing something up, and that was 20 years ago. I am told that resin kits are substantially more difficult (and don't get me started on vacform).

Someone needs to send copies of the Secret Projects books to Airfix.

That kit consists of very few pieces. The guy who created it posts on the What-if modelers forum, you can see parts breakdown there. https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=49590.165