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I think that Rockwell International paid Daniel Raymer not for sci-fi movie scetches. You probably know that he was Rockwell's ATF entry chief designer.
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Manned strategic system concepts 1990-2000
WILER, C. D. (Rockwell International Corp., North American Aircraft Group, Los Angeles, Calif.) RAYMER, D. P. (Rockwell International Corp., North American Aircraft Group, Los Angeles, Calif.)
AIAA-1979-1793
American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Aircraft Systems and Technology Meeting, New York, N.Y., Aug. 20-22, 1979, 15 p.F33615-77-C-0115
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Manned strategic system concepts 1990-2000
WILER, C. D. (Rockwell International Corp., North American Aircraft Group, Los Angeles, Calif.) RAYMER, D. P. (Rockwell International Corp., North American Aircraft Group, Los Angeles, Calif.)
AIAA-1979-1793
American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Aircraft Systems and Technology Meeting, New York, N.Y., Aug. 20-22, 1979, 15 p.F33615-77-C-0115
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This is Rockwell's genious Dan Raymer design of so-called 'Low-Cost Simplistic Aircraft' bomber aka ISADS, one of more carefully studied during 1979 'Manned strategic system concepts 1990-2000' study.
Look here as well for other concepts studied.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=362.msg2241#msg2241
If you want, I will add more pictoriial info to Rockwell studies thread.
Dan is very interesting person - his wife has russian roots and he even has course of his lectures in Moscow Aviation Institute in post-Perestroika period.
Look here as well for other concepts studied.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=362.msg2241#msg2241
If you want, I will add more pictoriial info to Rockwell studies thread.
Dan is very interesting person - his wife has russian roots and he even has course of his lectures in Moscow Aviation Institute in post-Perestroika period.
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Other info on 1979 Rockwell's study for 1999-2000 Manned Strategic Systems Concepts is here http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,362.0.html
This is, of course, doesn't match Scott's brilliant final drawings, but makes insight on other aspects of the study.
Scott - is this a spare set or a part of upcoming eAPR article?
This is, of course, doesn't match Scott's brilliant final drawings, but makes insight on other aspects of the study.
Scott - is this a spare set or a part of upcoming eAPR article?
flateric said:
The actual Rockwell design varied somewhat from source to source (span described as 77 feet or 81 feet, and the artists impressions conflict).
flateric said:
Nope, just randomly tossing out some of my US Bomber Projects drawings.
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This is what Flateric posted about the design in question:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,362.msg4634.html#msg4634
The engines look like medium bypass types, with nacelles similar in general appearance, if not size, to the JT8D - but obviously well over twice the output?
I would think that the only way to build a "low cost" bomber would be to employ an existing turbofan?
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,362.msg4634.html#msg4634
The engines look like medium bypass types, with nacelles similar in general appearance, if not size, to the JT8D - but obviously well over twice the output?
I would think that the only way to build a "low cost" bomber would be to employ an existing turbofan?
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Uh, I was hoping you were working at a recapitulation of spanloader concepts... like the BWBs in eAPR n.3. I'm doing it for myself as far as the 1970's NASA sponsored projects... I'll post something in the near future.
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Yes, Dan has registered on the forum. Not posted yet though....
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Merged topics. Thanks for these drawings, Scott.
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HI, DAN!!!! ;D
DAMN!!!!!!
It seems like the best way to make progress is to simply give up. After years of putting together scraps on things like the delta spanloader, and forging up a reconstruction, *today* I get in the mail a Rockwell document via FOIA that lays out the drawings in nice, neat, clear, unambiguous lines. The delta as well as the other designs that Flateric ppsted back in August '06.
And boy was I wrong about the Minimum Penetration Time design side view.
Back to the freakin' drawing board...
It seems like the best way to make progress is to simply give up. After years of putting together scraps on things like the delta spanloader, and forging up a reconstruction, *today* I get in the mail a Rockwell document via FOIA that lays out the drawings in nice, neat, clear, unambiguous lines. The delta as well as the other designs that Flateric ppsted back in August '06.
And boy was I wrong about the Minimum Penetration Time design side view.
Back to the freakin' drawing board...
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Wow, those are awesome drawings. Where did you locate them, or is that "Proprietary?" You may also have to sell high res versions on CD . I had no idea a drawing of the scissor wing bomber that detailed existed. Now if we could only find one for the scissor wing design that is, similar to that Rockwell design, by Boeing.
. I had no idea a drawing of the scissor wing bomber that detailed existed. Now if we could only find one for the scissor wing design that is, similar to that Rockwell design, by Boeing.
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Those are the end results of several years worth of Freedom of Information Act requests.
You may also have to sell high res versions on CD
I have a *lot* of high-rez bomber stuff that I think would sell on CD. B ut I want to get the book out before I go and dump all the research for it...
While I know that roughly equivalent work was put into the Boeing concept, I don't think I've seen references to the actual reports.
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Depends on how broad-minded you are on how you define a "year."
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You're a jovial fellow, OBB.
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Full Rockwell study report...
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Mmmmm, it seems that when you ask a non-free printed report in NIST or DTIC or CASI-NASA they exploit the search you pay fr to scan it and make it available for free online.... this has already happened to me. Curious policy.
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Yes.
I bust my butt to get reports declassified, and they go ahead and post 'em online.
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OVER WING INLETS FOR SUPERSONIC PENETRATOR VEHICLES
by Louis C. Young
Rockwell International
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