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Hi,

the Canadair CL-45 was ASW helicopter project,CL-52 was Boeing B-47B
and CL-61 snow mobile project, what were the Canadair CL-65 (old design)
and CL-212 ?.
 
The CL-52 was a B-47B loaned in 1956 to the Royal Canadian Air Force to test the big Orenda Iroquois turbojet for the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow interceptor.

It caused the frame to warp and the plane was scrapped upon return to the USA
 
Hesham,

The Canadair CL-212 was a hovercraft design.

http://www.decastris.com/hcc/builders/cl212/cl212.htm
 
Thank you my dear Apophenia,

and do you think we can speak about Canadair aircraft list from CL-1
to CL-100,or that is hard.
 
A comprehensive Canadair list would be difficult.

Molson lists 23 projects in his Canadian Aircraft since 1909 (along with all the built types, of course). Others are available elsewhere. That would make a start but nowhere near a complete list.

Edit: Canadair CL-0 to CL-100 list revised and now complete -- thanks to boxkite! ;D
 
Canadair CL-0 to CL-100 designation list
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Canadair CL-0 - Douglas C-47 conversion to DC-3, 1945
Canadair CL-1 - Consolidated OA-10A (last of Canadian Vicker's PBY-5/Canso orders), 1944
Canadair CL-2 - North Star MkI (4 x RR Merlin 622s or 722s), 1944/'46
Canadair CL-3 - * Northrop N-23/C-125 Raider (3 x R-1820), 1949 (became CL-12)
Canadair CL-4 - North Star C-4 and Argonaut (4 x RR Merlin 624s or 724s)
Canadair CL-5 - North Star C-5 (4 x P&W R-2800-CA15s)
Canadair CL-6 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-7 - * enlarged C-5 derivative, North Star C-7 (4 x P&W R-2800-CA15s), 1950
Canadair CL-8 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-9 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-10 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-11 - * RCAF type number for North Star C-5 (duplicating CL-5 designation), 1950
Canadair CL-12 - * Northrop N-23/C-125 Raider (3 x R-1820), 1949
Canadair CL-13 - licenced NA Sabre (Sabre 1, 2, 3, 4), CL-13A/Sabre 6, CL-13B/Sabre 6,
CL-13C (Sabre 5 with area rule), CL-13D (?), CL-13E (Sabre 6 with reheat).
Canadair CL-14 - * military jet trainer, 1950
Canadair CL-15 - * Beech T-36 military trainer (2 x R-1820, CL-15A 2 x AS Mamba), 1951
Canadair CL-16 - * pilot trainer (2 x R-2800), 1951 [possibly Beech T-36A?]
Canadair CL-17 - * 15-seat local transport (2 x Wright C7B6), 1951 [Beech T-36 deriv.?]
Canadair CL-18 - * transport, local, 27-seat (2 x Wright 959, C98E1), 1951
Canadair CL-19 - * transport, intercity, 32-seat (2 x Napier Eland), 1951
Canadair CL-20 - CARDE Velvet Glove, air-to-air-missile, 1951
Canadair CL-21 - * transport, local, 32-passenger (2 x Wright C98E1)
Canadair CL-22 - * transport, intercity, 32-pass (1 x AS Double Mamba), 1951
Canadair CL-23 - * transport, local service, 21-pass (1 x AS Mamba A.S.Ma.3), 1951
Canadair CL-24 - * RCN SAR aircraft (engine type?), 1951
Canadair CL-25 - * transport, local service, 21-pass (1 x AS Mamba A.S.Ma.3), 1952
Canadair CL-26 - * transport, local service, 32- or 36-pass (2 x P&W R-2180 Twin Hornets)
three versions, high or low winged, 1952
Canadair CL-27 - * transport, inter-city (4 x 2750 shp Allison T-38s),
three versions, 60-, 68-, or 84-passengers, 1951/'52
Canadair CL-28 - maritime patrol, CP-107 Argus (4 x R-3350 TC981 EA-1s), 1952
Canadair CL-29 - * maritime patrol aircraft (? x R-3350-85s), 1952
Canadair CL-30 - CT-133 Silver Star (Nene-powered Lockheed T-33), 1953
Canadair CL-31 - * maritime patrol aircraft (4 x R-3350-85s), 1953
Canadair CL-32 - * Americanized Bristol Britannia, 1953
Canadair CL-33 - * maritime patrol aircraft (? x R-3350-32W/'34FSs), 1953
Canadair CL-34 - * CARDE Velvet Glove AAM airframe trainer, 1954
Canadair CL-35 - * North Star turboprop for TCA (4 x 1400 shp RR Dart RD5s), 1953
Canadair CL-36 - * Target drone, ground/air launched (RR RB.82 Soar), four versions, 1953
Canadair CL-37 - * transport, military (4 x P&W R-2800-CA15s), CL-5 derivative,
four versions: cargo, 76-pass., or 60 litter ambulance, 1953
Canadair CL-38 - * transport, military (4 x R-3350-32W/34FSs), cargo, pass, ambulance, 1953
Canadair CL-39 - * transport, transoceanic airliner (4 x 6500 shp Wright T-49s), 1953
Canadair CL-40 - * transport, airliner, 68 - 116 pass (4 x Bristol BE-25 Orions), 1953
Canadair CL-41 - military trainer, CT-114 Tutor/CL-41G Tebuan (1 x GE J85),
* 1954 (Armstrong-Siddeley Viper), 1959 CL-41A prototype (GE CJ-610-1B)
Canadair CL-42 - * transport, executive, Beech T-36 deriv. (2 x R-2800-CB17s), 1954
Canadair CL-43 - * logistic supply aircraft (2 x R-1340), 1954 [V/STOL design?]
Canadair CL-44 - transport, cargo/pass (4 x RR Tyne II/Tyne R.Ty.12s), 1954
Canadair CL-45 - * ASW helicopter - with Hiller (3 x GE T38-GE2s), 1954
Canadair CN-46 - Atomic Energy of Canada (prototype control rod, nuclear reactor), 1957
Canadair CL-47 - tracked vehicle suspension rod, 1956 [for prototype CL-61 RAT?]
Canadair CL-48 - * DNG-1 SAM for RCN (rocket booster), 1955
Canadair CN-49 - Atomic Energy of Canada (small reactor), 1955/'57
Canadair CL-50 - * airliner, single/double deck (4 x BE-25 Orion), CL-50A jet airliner
(4/5 AS Saphhire, P&W J57, or RR Conway), 1955/1951
Canadair CL-51 - * Tartar SAM for USN (MK 27 rocket)
Canadair CL-52 - Boeing B-47B (Orenda Iroquois PS-13 engine testbed for Avro Arrow)
Canadair CL-53 - * USAF crew readiness trainer/bizjet (3 Fairchild J83, RR RB.108)
Canadair CL-54 - Douglas/Bendix Sparrow II, AAM for Avro Arrow, 1958
Canadair CN-55 - Atomic Energy of Canada (Beta-ray spectrometer), 1956/'57
Canadair CN-56 - University of Toronto (sub-critical training reactor), 1956/'58
Canadair CN-57 - * Canadair Nuclear control rods/control rod system, 1957
Canadair CN-58 - * Canadair Nuclear dielectric heating process: pulp digestion, 1957
Canadair CN-59 - * Canadair Nuclear tank nuclear reactor, 1958
Canadair CL-60 - XT-36 trainer for USAF (with Beech), 2 x P&W R-2800-52Ws)
Canadair CL-61 - prototype RAT (Remote Articulated Track) snow mobile (35 hp VW), 1956
Canadair CL-62 - multi-engine tilt-wing V/STOL (engine type?)
Canadair CN-63 - * Canadair Nuclear sub-critical nuclear reactor, 1957
Canadair CL-64 - * Canadair Nuclear fuel charge & discharge gear for reactor, 1957
Canadair CL-65 - * towed target (for Sabre and Silver Star)
Canadair CL-66 - CC-109 Cosmopolitan, licenced CV-540 (Napier Eland or Allison 501), 1958
Canadair CL-67 - * maritime patrol aircraft for NATO competion (CL-67A, 4 x AS Mamba 10s)
(CL-67B, 4 x RR Tyne 1s), 1958
Canadair CL-68 - * Special Weapons anti-missile missile, 1958
Canadair CL-69 - * transport, executive/utility, four versions (2 x Continental 219, Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A, or Armstrong Siddeley P.182), 1958
Canadair CL-70 - production RAT (Remote Articulated Track) snow mobile (35 hp VW), 1956
Canadair CL-71 - * 1-ton tracked cargo carrier (70 hp Porsche 1600), 1957
Canadair CL-72 - * VTOL strike/recce aircraft (4 x Orenda PS-16), 1958
Canadair CL-73 - * tilt-wing VTOL recce aircraft, ten versions (2 x 250 shp Allison T-63s
[Molson], 800 shp GE T58s [Pickler/Milberry]), 1958
Canadair CL-74 - * VTOL recce aircraft, two versions (2 x ?), 1958
Canadair CN-75 - * Canadair Nuclear Z-2 research nuclear reactor, 1958
Canadair CL-76 - * tactical bomber, used CL-13 Sabre components (2 x JT-12s), 1958
Canadair CL-77 - prototype automatic mail sorter (Canada Post), 1958
Canadair CN-78 - Canadair Nuclear magnetic coils, Beta-ray spectometer, 1958
Canadair CL-79 - valves for Boeing CIM-10B Bomarc SAM, 1959
Canadair CL-80 - Convair Astronautics test equipment, 1959
Canadair CL-81 - * medium-range 70/90-seat jetliner, TCA, (4 x GE, P&W, or RR engines), 1959
Canadair CL-82 - * architectural product (Place Ville Marie curtain wall), 1959
Canadair CL-83 - CARDE Snow Goose/Black Brant I high altitude test vehicle (design begun by Bristol, taken over by Canadair), 1959
Canadair CL-84 - VTOL recce prototype CX-131 Dynavert (2 x Lycoming 1K-4C/LTCIK-4), 1965/72
* growth version of CL-73 (2 x P&WC PT6As), 1959
Canadair CL-85 - * Robot dispatch carrier
Canadair CL-86 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-87 - * Army logistic missile system, 1960
Canadair CL-88 - Convair 880 deriv. for TCA (4 x RR or Allison jet engines), 1960
Canadair CL-89 - Midge, surveillance UAV (Williams Research WR-2), 1960
Canadair CL-90 - CF-104 Starfighter - RCAF versions (GE J79-GE-7), 1959
Canadair CL-91 - XM571 Dynatrac Utility Carrier (65 hp GM Corvair air-cooled flat-6), 1961
Canadair CL-92 - architectural product (CIL House curtain wall), 1960
Canadair CL-93 - CF-104/F-104G flighter simulator, 1960
Canadair CL-94 - architectural product (Malton Airport Aeroquay curtain wall), 1961
Canadair CL-95 - * executive aircraft, 6/8 pass (2 x P&WC PT6A), 1961
Canadair CL-96 - * Convair high altitude probe (Black Brant III), 1961
Canadair CL-97 - * military deriv. of CL-95, 6/8 pass (? x Orenda PS-25C turbofan), 1961
Canadair CL-98 - * military transport, rear-loading, RCAF (2 x GE T64), 1961
Canadair CL-99 - * military cargo transport (4 x P&W JT3D-14 turbofans), 1961
Canadair CL-100 - CL-199 [not assigned]

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Apophenia,

Do you know "Canadair - The First 50 Years" written by Pickler and Milberry (CANAV Books, Toronto 1995 / ISBN 0921022077)? It's a good reference for a designation list, but - as usual - my copy is somewhere in a pile of boxes in the loft ...
 
Cheers boxkite! I meant to ask if anyone had a copy of "Canadair - The First 50 Years" ;D
 
Ignoring my own plans for the afternoon ;) , here are the lists from the mentioned book.

Enjoy!
 

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Very very great thanks to you my dears Apophenia and Boxkite.
 
boxkite, you are my absolute hero ... Prosit!

Edit: For completeness, the Canadair CL-200 to CL-700 series is listed below (once again courtesy of boxkite).
 
Canadair CL-200 to CL-700 designation list
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Canadair CL-200 - * transport, cargo, all-wing (6 x P&W JT3D), 1961
Canadair CL-201 - CF-104 Starfighter (MAP export versions), 1961
Canadair CL-202 - * HP Herald, tactical transport/nav trainer (2 x RR Dart R Da542-10), 1962
Canadair CL-203 - * short/med-range RCAF transport (? x RR Spey), 1962
Canadair CL-204 - * twin-boomed water bomber (2 x P&W R-2800-Bs), 1962
Canadair CL-205 - Sikorsky CH-53A components, 1963
Canadair CL-206 - * North American NA-265 Sabreliner (2 x JT12A or J85s), 1963
Canadair CL-207 - General Dynamics F-111 component sets, 1963
Canadair CL-208 - MGM-52 Lance missile launcher (M752)
Canadair CL-209 - * licenced CL-41 Tutor manufacture (overseas), 1963 [1]
Canadair CL-210 - 30 ft Northern Electric tracking antenna, 1964
Canadair CL-211 - Avian 2/180 Gyroplane assessement, 1964 [CF-JTO-X?]
Canadair CL-212 - air-cushion vehicles, two models, 1964/'66
CL-212-1A10 (lift, 2 x 100-hp Mercurys + propulsion, 1 x 50-hp McCulloch)
CL-212-1B11 (2 x 4.7-litre/289-cid Ford liquid-cooled V-8)
Canadair CL-213 - Fisher ATV (9hp, 250cc, 1-cylinder Rotax), 1963/'64
Canadair CL-214 - * light close support aircraft, 1964
Canadair CL-215 - multipurpose amphibian (2 x R-2800s), 1964, waterbomber, 1966,
CL-215T turboprop conversions (PW123A), 1987
CL-215-6B11 turboprop marketed as CL-415, 1991
Canadair CL-216 - * air cushion vehicle, 20-passenger, 1965
Canadair CL-217 - Hydro-Québec hydro line maintenance cable car, 1965
Canadair CL-218 - Autobus, licenced Flxible 'New Look' transit bus (GM diesel), 1965/'66
Canadair CL-219 - CF-116 (RCAF CF-5 Freedom Fighter)
Canadair CL-220 - Lockheed C-5A components, 1962/'67
Canadair CL-221 - * air cushion vehicle, 4-to-5-seat (4.7-litre/289 cid Ford V-8), 1965
Canadair CL-222 - * multipurpose landplane, 3 version, (2 x ?), 1951
Canadair CL-223 - Autobus, licenced Flxible transit bus (4.9-L/300 cid Ford L-6), 1965
Canadair CL-224 - Ontario Hydro hydro line maintenance cable car, 1965
Canadair CL-225 - 45 ft Northern electric satcom antenna, 1966
Canadair CL-226 - NF-5 Freedom Fighter (Dutch export version), 1967
Canadair CL-227 - Sentinel UAV (Adolph Saurer GT-15, Williams WR-/WTS-34), 1967
Canadair CL-228 - * R&D high-lift systems study, 1967
Canadair CL-229 - * Northern electric 30-foot polar-mount antenna, 1968
Canadair CL-230 - * SAR amphibian (? x turboprops), 1967
Canadair CL-231 - architectural product (Air Traffic Control tower cab, 66 sq ft), 1967
Canadair CL-232 - architectural product (mobile transportable tower cab), 1967
Canadair CL-233 - architectural product (Air Traffic Control tower cab, 275 sq ft), 1967
Canadair CL-234 - * domestic communications satellite (structure & power systems), 1968
Canadair CL-235 - Northern Electric TV receiver antenna prototype, 1968
Canadair CL-236 - * Advanced Multi-Role Aircraft (AMRA) (? x engine type), 1968
Canadair CL-237 - CAE tactical aircraft guidance system, 1968
Canadair CL-238 - * military trainer, 2-seat tandem, (engine type?) 1969
Canadair CL-239 - Lockheed L-1011 Tristar components, 1969
Canadair CL-240 - advanced V/STOL propeller program, 1969
Canadair CL-241 - * multi-role transport/ASW aircraft, (engine type?) 1969
Canadair CL-242 - * airliner, 20-26 pass., deflected-thrust, high-wing, (engine type?) 1969
Canadair CL-243 - * airliner, 40-56 pass., deflected-thrust, high-wing, (engine type?) 1969
Canadair CL-244 - * proposed swing tail kit for Boeing B707, 1969
Canadair CL-245 - * [replaced by CL-260]
Canadair CL-246 - transport, tilt wing (4 x Lycoming T53-19A) (for American Airlines,
civilian and military variants)
Canadair CL-247 - Dassault Mercure II skins, 1970
Canadair CL-248 - Dassault Falcon 10 wing panels, 1970
Canadair CL-249 - advanced materials, 1971
Canadair CL-250 - water treatment plant (l'École Polytechnique/Univ. de Montréal), 1971
Canadair CL-251 - Dassault Mercure II components, 1972
Canadair CL-252 - Lockheed 188C Electra (x2) modified for ice patrol, 1972
Canadair CL-253 - Atomic Energy of Canada (prototype control rod, nuclear reactor), 1957
Canadair CL-254 - DIR proposal 1006, aerodynamic characteristics of counter-rotating rotors
Canadair CL-255 - Oil collection syste, 1972
Canadair CL-256 - radome (United Aircraft of Canada), 1972
Canadair CL-257 - Boeing B747SP (fuselage sections), 1973/'82 - 1985
Canadair CL-258 - Metro cars, 1973
Canadair CL-259 - * Rockwell B-1 Lancer fin composite structure (USAF), 1974
Canadair CL-260 - * utility aircraft, DHC-3 replacement (1 x PW&C PT6A-27), 1970
1A10 - fixed gear, 1B11 - retractable gear, smaller wings and tail
Canadair CL-261 - stores clearance definition study, 1974
Canadair CL-262 - fisheries control study, 1974
Canadair CL-263 - multi-purpose van bodies, 1974
Canadair CL-264 - Convair 580 remote-sensing role proposal (* conversion), 1974
Canadair CL-265 - * VTOL RPV [UAV] technology development, 1974
Canadair CL-266 - * utility transport (2 x PW&C PT6A-45), 1975
Canadair CL-267 - * high-speed train based on UAC Turbo (? x PW&C PT6As), 1976
Canadair CL-268 - * aerocrane (4 x PW&C PT6A-45), 1977
Canadair CL-269 - * vertical-axis wind turbine study (Shawinigan Engineering), 1978
Canadair CL-270 - * light commercial aircraft (2 x Allison 250-B17), 197?
Canadair CL-271 - Grumman EF-111A vertical stabilizers, 1975
Canadair CL-272 - Grumman E2C wet outer wing proposal, 1975
Canadair CL-273 - Wind turbine generator comparative study (Hydro-Québec), 1978
Canadair CL-274 - MDC F-18A c/n 247 (USMC s/n 162413), 1981
Canadair CL-275 - CL-279 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-280 - * Boeing LRPA (B707 Long-Range Patrol Aircraft), 1974
Canadair CL-281 - Lockheed LRPA (P-3C Long-Range Patrol Aircraft), 1974
Became Canadian Forces Lockheed CP-140 Aurora patrol aircraft
Canadair CL-282 - Boeing B767, section 48, 1979
Canadair CL-283 - Boeing B767 components (Grumman subcontract), 1980
Canadair CL-284 - * tilt-wing V/STOL light intra-theatre transport (LIT), 1968
1A10 - 4-prop, parallel chord wing, 1A11 - 4-prop, tapered wing
Canadair CL-285 - * energy efficient aircraft wing (GE CF34), 1980
Canadair CL-286 - * primary trainer (q x PT6A), 1981
Canadair CL-287 - CL-288 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-289 - UAV, intermediate-range surveillance drone, 1971
Canadair CL-290 - ICTS (UTDC Intermediate Capacity Transit System, eg: Skytrain), 1975
Canadair CL-291 - locomotive steerable axle truck, 1978/79
Canadair CL-292 - Canadian Forces DHC CC-115 Buffalo accelerometer data, 1981
Canadair CL-293 - Canadian Forces Dassault CC-117 Falcon accelerometer data, 1981
Canadair CL-294 - Canadian Forces Lockheed CC-130 Hercules accelerometer data, 1981
Canadair CL-295 - Canadian Forces Beech CT-134 Muskateer accelerometer data, 1981
Canadair CL-296 - Canadian Forces Grumman CP-121 Tracker accelerometer data, 1981
Canadair CL-297 - Grumman G-1159 Gulfstream II accelerometer data, 1981
Canadair CL-298 - Lockheed (L-1???) Constellation accelerometer data, 1981
Canadair CL-299 - Northrop T-38 Talon trainer aircraft [components?], 1984 [2]
Canadair CL-300 - tooling for Bell Helicopter Textron 400 TwinRanger, 1985
Canadair CL-301 - electrical load survey (USN Convair C-131H Samaritan), 1986
Canadair CL-302 - CL-317 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-318 - MDC CF-18 systems engineering support, 1986
Canadair CL-319 - CL-326 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-327 - reserved for CL-227 upgrade [became Bombardier CL-327 Guardian]
Canadair CL-328 - CL-329 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-330 - Airbus A330/A340 components, 1988
Canadair CL-331 - CL-349 - [not assigned]
Canadair CL-350 - Airbus A330/A340 components, 1988
Canadair CL-351 - CL-399 - [reserved for Defence Systems Division, 1993]
Canadair CL-400 - CL-599 - [not assigned, except as follows]
Canadair CL-415 - production CL-215T (properly CL-215-6B11), 1991
Canadair CL-427 - reserved for CL-227 upgrade, 1991
Canadair CL-527 - reserved for CL-227 upgrade, 1991
Canadair CL-600 - Challenger bizjet (2 x Lycoming ALF-502L), 1976
Canadair CL-601 - Challenger bizjet (2 x GE CF34-1A/-3A), 1981
Canadair CL-604 - Challenger bizjet (2 x GE CF34-3B), 1981
Canadair CRJ - Canadair Regional Jet, 50 seat (2 x GE CF34-1A/-3A1), 1987
Canadair CL-645 - EST Challenger, [CF EW deriv. devel. with Lockheed Martin], 1993
Canadair CL-646 - CP-144, coastal patrol Challenger (2 x Lycoming ALF-502L), 1992
Canadair CL-700 - becomes Bombardier Global Express bizjet (2 x RB710-48-C2), 1993

Canadair division absorbed by Bombardier - 1994

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[1] CL-209 must refer to assumed CL-41R Tutor production to go with MAP CF-104s.

[2] According to former employees' website, T-38 components were made in 1965.
 
Apophenia said:
Canadair CL-70 - production RAT (Remote Articulated Track) snow mobile (35 hp VW), 1956

As a side note, it's official Canadian Army and US Army designation was Carrier, Cargo, Amphibious, Articulated. By 1963, production examples were being fitted with a VW 4 cylinder Air-cooled engine (horizontally opposed 4 stroke) rated at 36 hp.
 
Apophenia said:
Canadair CL-0 to CL-100 designation list
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Canadair CL-100 - CL-199 [not assigned]

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I suspect on that,in JAWA 1963 index a reference to CL-106 & CL-107,and also they mention CC-106
and CP-107 as anther designs ?.
 

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hesham said:
I suspect on that,in JAWA 1963 index a reference to CL-106 & CL-107,and also they mention CC-106
and CP-107 as anther designs ?.

Hesham: With "CL-106" and "CL-107", JAWA mistakeningly assumed that Canadair designation and Department of National Defence designations were directly related. They weren't (at least not in any methodical way).

CC-106 and CP-107 were strictly military designations for two of Canadair's Britannia-based designs. The CC-106 Yukon military transport was the Canadair CL-44-6 (4 x Roll-Royce Tyne 11s). The CP-107 Argus maritime patrol aircraft was the Canadair CL-28 (4 x Wright R-3350 TC18EA1).
 
My dear Apophenia,

but for CC-106 & CP-107,they were appeared in 1962 & 1963,although we will
wait to see the pages of those designation to can judge well.
 

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I have attempted to reorganize as best as possible the various Canadair related topics on this forum.
This involved splitting a few posts from certain topics to start separate ones, merging topics covering the same subjects, renaming certain topics to replaced "C.L." by the accurate CL-" (so they can be found more easily in search engines), fixing errors (CL-286) and duplicate images, etc.

Here is a list of all the main topics dealing with Canadair projects or built types (other topics exist, but they merely mention Canadair in passing):

Canadair CL-13 "Sabre" jet fighter and proposed derivatives (CL-53, CL-76)
Canadair CL-21: a short-lived planned replacement for the DC-3
Canadair CL-29, CL-31 and CL-33 ASW proposals
Early Canadair unmanned projects (CL-20, CL-36, CL-54, CL-65, CL-85, CL-87)
Canadair CL-40, CL-50, Bristol/Canadair/Convair BE.25 Orion-powered airliner
Canadair CL-41 Projects
Canadair business aircraft projects (CL-41, CL-53, CL-69, CL-95)
Canadair's VTOL projects before the CL-84 (CL-62, CL-72, CL-73, CL-74, CL-84)
Canadair CL-44 for the USAF?
Conroy Colossus (a modification of the Canadair CL-44)
Canadair CL-44 Model Designations
Canadair CL-45 ASW Helicopter Project
USAF T-36A trainer (Beechcraft Model 46 / Canadair CL-15, CL-42, CL-60)
Canadair CL-84 « Dynavert »
Canadair/General Dynamics CL-84 Projects
Canadair CL-89 and CL-289 surveillance drones
Canadair CL-99
Canadair CL-200
Canadair CL-43 and CL-204 STOL and early CL-215 development
Canadair CL-212 air-cushion vehicle
Canadair CL-227, CL-327 and CL-427 VTOL drones
Canadair CL-246 tilt-wing transport projects
Canadair CL-610 project

Further work needs to be done, especially regarding the various CL-84 topics, but it's a start.
 
A lot of BRAND NEW contents added to the forum today, notably business aircraft projects, drone projects and unbuilt Sabre derivatives, most never posted before.
Take the time to explore the updated topics list, it's worth it!
 
Many thanks and admiration for sharing all that work and passion.

Antonio
 
Here is an Info about CL-540,was it a typo or not ?;

https://books.google.com.eg/books?id=_xAv7OwZMTgC&pg=PA172&lpg=PA172&dq=CANADAIR+cl-540+AIRCRAFT&source=bl&ots=cJye2GZ2Ww&sig=qxae8529hP-0NfQzAcFkdsVO4dE&hl=ar&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjvvc-dssfcAhVLaFAKHeDmAn4Q6AEwCXoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=CANADAIR%20cl-540%20AIRCRAFT&f=false
 

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Molson and Taylor describe the CL-66, Canadair's in-house designation for converted/new build re-engined Convair CV-440s. Canadair had bought the unsold CV-440s, as well as CV-440 production jigs and tools when Convair phased out the type's production to make room for CV-880 production in San Diego. Canadair re-engined the three inherited CV-440s with Napier Eland turboprops, redesignating the lot CV-540C. Then, Canadair received a Canadian government contract for ten new CL-66B cargo and passenger aircraft, used as CC-109s by RCAF Air Transport Command from 1960 until the last two were decommissioned in 1979.
Source: 'Canadian Aircraft since 1909' by KM Molson & HA Taylor, Putnam, 1982.
 
Not "CL-540", but at least three Canadair documents (ads and inhouse report) calling the aircraft the Canadair 540.
 

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Here's a circa-1957 documentary commissioned by the National Film Board of Canada (NFB) entitled, "Birth of a Giant," portraying the development and construction of the Canadair CL-28 Argus, including flight of the prototype (RCAF 20710, squadron coded VN-710). It looks like there is even a Wikipedia entry on the film (link.)

YouTube - National Film Board of Canada (NFB): "Birth of a Giant"
 
Just adding some detail to the Challenger and Regional Jet series with their designations matched to their marketing names.

CL-215-1A10 - CL-215
CL-215-6B11 - CL-215T & CL-415

CL-600-1A11 - Challenger 600 & 600S
CL-600-2A12 - Challenger 601
CL-600-2B16 - Challenger 601-3A, 3R, 604, 605 & 650
CL-600-2B19 - Regional Jet 100, 200, 400, CRJ SE and Challenger 850
CL-600-2C10 - Regional Jet 700, 701, 702 and Challenger 870
CL-600-2C11 - Regional Jet 550
CL-600-2D15 - Regional Jet 705
CL-600-2D24 - Regional Jet 900 and Challenger 890
CL-600-2E25 - Regional Jet 1000

The Challenger 300 & 350 had a designation within the Bombardier system, BD-1001A10.

Source: Air Britain, Aviation World, 2020
 
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Ignoring my own plans for the afternoon ;) , here are the lists from the mentioned book.

Enjoy!
I know this is a old thread, but thought I’d take a chance. Is there any additional coverage of the CL-83 (CARDE Snow Goose) in this book or is it limited to its inclusion in the list? I’m researching the early Black Brant rockets and information about Canadair’s involvement early in the program is pretty limited.

Thanks
 

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