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Going o/t but on a tangent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E5dB_9dW2SQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E5dB_9dW2SQ
Hmm......I must watch this movie.Grey Havoc said:Going o/t but on a tangent:
Apteryx said:The trailer gives the impression that it may be more sad than sentimental, but I have no doubt that it will evoke the world of prewar Japan powerfully.
Stargazer2006 said:Sadness has always been very much part of the anime and manga world, at least in the "classic" works (up to the 1980s). I've always wondered if this was a side-effect of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki tragedies. The way that Japan seems to have taken it all in stride and reconstructed quickly after the war is proof of that people's proud and industrious spirit, but the damage can't have been without consequences on that nation's psyche. The works of all the great masters (Leiji Matsumoto and Hayao Miyazaki, notably) are always permeated with a lot of sentimentality, but also sadness. Death is very often an integral part of their works, as are courage, pride, independence of spirit and friendship.
The war that followed on the heels of the events this movie apparently glorifies *was* started solely by Japan. Please remember that.blackkite said:Please remember that the country which performed the war of aggression in the past is not only Japan.
Orionblamblam said:The war that followed on the heels of the events this movie apparently glorifies *was* started solely by Japan. Please remember that.
PaulMM (Overscan) said:Can we lay off the who started WW2 argument?
Stargazer2006 said:For Christ's sake, I wasn't talking about who started the war or anything. I was talking about being nuked. Being used as a large-scale experiment for a previously non-tested weapon that doesn't just kill but leaves dire lifelong crippling consequences on those who survive.
Stargazer2006 said:And as usual, you guys fall into that same old trap of saying "they" started it, implying that all Japanese people wanted that war.
Stargazer2006 said:You should know better by now that the people of this planet at large would rather live in peace. It's always a handful of leaders that want wars, start wars, end wars, but it's the people at large that wage it and suffer.
Stargazer2006 said:I'm extremely disappointed that a topic that wasn't meant to go sour is getting diverted off-course because of such backwarded and inhumane comments implying that "they got what they deserved".
Abraham Gubler said:If you are going to back up this shallow relativism with any real moral thought perhaps you’d like to tell the forum that there never should have been any bombing of Germany? So no poor Germans were killed and they could still be running France and doing what they please there.
Stargazer2006 said:There was a build-up of military power for years of course, but the enemy until then had always been China and there was no reason for the people at large to believe there could be another agenda than preparing for the next clash with the giant neighboring country.
Stargazer2006 said:Hitler came to power with the consent and even backing of a vast part of the population.
Hirohito was the heir of an imperial dynasty, considered a demi-god walking among people.
blackkite said:Sorry for my poor English. ;D What should I use instead of maniac? We sometimes use this word in Japan.
Does it have something to do with tentacles?Stargazer2006 said:blackkite said:Sorry for my poor English. ;D What should I use instead of maniac? We sometimes use this word in Japan.
I don't know! If I knew what you're trying to say it would help...
Stargazer2006 said:I don't think the decision for Japan to start war was something that was as obvious or that developed over such a long period. At most I certainly don't believe anyone in the Japanese public had any notion their country was going to wage a semi-global war. I don't even think America was seen, even remotely, as a potential enemy by the population. There was an admiration of America's values, the most popular sport there was baseball, etc... There was a build-up of military power for years of course, but the enemy until then had always been China and there was no reason for the people at large to believe there could be another agenda than preparing for the next clash with the giant neighboring country.
Hrrrrmm. "Since it is clear to disappoint many spectators as it is a too much fan movie, some Horikoshi's lives are dramatized."starviking said:"maniac" is an English word imported into Japanese, but with the meaning of "fan". There are a lot of these kinds of mutated English, for example the Japanese English word "handle" means "steering wheel".
Abraham Gubler said:Maniac used to mean in English english an obsessive person. Its just American influence that has made maniac mean more of a violent, out of control person.
Orionblamblam said:Abraham Gubler said:Maniac used to mean in English english an obsessive person. Its just American influence that has made maniac mean more of a violent, out of control person.
Buh?
ma·ni·ac noun 1. a raving or violently insane person; lunatic. 2. any intemperate or overly zealous or enthusiastic person: a maniac when it comes to details. adjective 3. maniacal.
Origin:
1595–1605; < Medieval Latin maniacus of, pertaining to madness.
The Medieval Latin would seem to suggest that crazy was there in "maniac" from the beginning. Also:
[C17:fromLateLatinmaniacusbelonging to madness, from Greek]
Yay! Etymology! Soon we'll wrench this sucker over to a discussion of DigiPokeVoltRangers...
Madurai said:Has anyone here actually seen the film yet?
blackkite said:The heroine's voice actor is Miori Takimoto.
One of the most beautiful young actress in Japan.
Madurai said:Maniac and dramatic movie.
Stargazer2006 said:Beautiful young lady indeed!![]()
I could make a very long list for instance or such English/French and French/English nonsense...
See also:Orionblamblam said:Nothing beats: http://www.engrish.com/
Orionblamblam said:Nothing beats: http://www.engrish.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_phrases_used_by_English_speakersStargazer2006 said:I'm talking about expressions and words used in everyday English that are supposed to be French but do not mean the same thing at all in French!
Doesn't France have some sort of government agency that spends its days ulcerating about English words sneaking into French, and inventing French equivalents?expressions and words used in everyday French that are supposed to be English.