Douglas DC-9 Development Concepts

Douglas DC-9 Model 2086 proposal factory model from the late 1950s found on eBay.

URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-DC-9-Proposal-Douglas-Factory-Model-DFM-Airplane-/160416988811?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255998fe8b

Seller's description:

This model is SO RARE it is the ONLY MODEL I'm selling this week! In this auction you are bidding on a DOUGLAS FACTORY MODEL of the 1962 [sic] DC-9 model 2086 proposal. This is probably one of the RAREST models I have ever owned. This WOOD desktop display model of the early DC9 passenger jet transport is in House Colors livery and includes the ORIGINAL STAND and SWIVEL! Many of the EARLY Douglas Factory Models were made in wood. This VINTAGE model is ALL ORIGINAL and, other than a few minor age-related cracks in the underside and wing-fuselage joins, it is in EXCELLENT PLUS to NEAR MINT condition with VERY LITTLE WEAR in the ORIGINAL PAINT AND DECALS, as can be seen in the pics. The length is a LARGE 18 inches and the wingspan is about 15 1/2 inches, which makes it 1/72 scale. The ORIGINAL METAL STAND is included. This particular model was originally owned by aviation historian Terry Waddington and featured in his classic and definitive book, McDonnell Douglas DC-9, part of the Great Airliners Series. Fred Cox, the DC-8 guru, also owned this model at one time, and it is featured on his website at http://www.dc-8jet.com/dac-dc9-p2086.htm. This terrific aircraft model was made by the Douglas Factory, one of the premier modelmakers, such as Pacific Miniatures (PacMin), Westway, Space, W.J. Hyatt, Topping, Rolen, Precise, Air Jet Advance, Raise Up, Osgaard, Fermo, Verkuyl, Allyn, and Atlantic Models. These travel agency or factory type models would be used on a ticket counter or corporate office. The early ones were made of metal by such companies as the Lockheed Factory Model Shop, Nucci, and others.

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Four-engined Douglas DC-9 Model 2067 proposal model from the late 1950s found on eBay.

URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-4-Eng-DC9-Douglas-Factory-Model-Airplane-DFM-ORIG-/200463534066?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eac8ec7f2

Seller's description:

In this auction you are bidding on a DOUGLAS FACTORY MODEL of the 1962 [sic] DC-9 model 2067 proposal. This is probably one of the RAREST models I have ever owned. This WOOD desktop display model of this EARLY, 4-ENGINE VERSION of the DC9 passenger jet transport is in House Colors livery and includes the ORIGINAL STAND and SWIVEL! Many of the EARLY Douglas Factory Models were made in wood. This VINTAGE model is ALL ORIGINAL and, other than a few age-related hairlines (from age, not damage!), it is in EXCELLENT PLUS to NEAR MINT condition with VERY LITTLE WEAR in the ORIGINAL PAINT AND DECALS, as can be seen in the pics. The length is a LARGE 17 1/4 inches and the wingspan is about 16 inches, which makes it 1/72 scale. The ORIGINAL METAL STAND is included.

This particular model was originally owned by aviation historian Terry Waddington and featured in his classic and definitive book, McDonnell Douglas DC-9, part of the Great Airliners Series. Fred Cox, the DC-8 guru, also owned this model at one time. You can read more about it on his website at http://www.dc-8jet.com/dac-dc9-p2067.htm and
http://www.dc-8jet.com/dac-dc9-p2067-details.htm. This terrific aircraft model was made by the Douglas Factory, one of the premier modelmakers, such as Pacific Miniatures (PacMin), Westway, Space, W.J. Hyatt, Topping, Rolen, Precise, Air Jet Advance, Raise Up, Osgaard, Fermo, Verkuyl, Allyn, and Atlantic Models. These travel agency or factory type models would be used on a ticket counter or corporate office. The early ones were made of metal by such companies as the Lockheed Factory Model Shop, Nucci, and others.

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Re: Douglas DC-9 Projects

Merged topics and moved to Postwar Aircraft Projects. Items still for sale if anyone wants to re-mortgage their house to buy em

Re: Douglas Model 2067 "DC-9" jet airliner project......

Dear Boys and Girls, here is an article in French about the Douglas Model 2067 "DC-9" jet airliner "project" which was abandoned after the early success (at launch) of the competitive Boeing 727 tri-jet airliner......

The article comes from the 18th July 1959 issue of Les Ailes......

Terry (Caravellarella)

Douglas Model 2067

Exterior dimensions:
Length: 103 ft (31.39 m)
Wingspan: 94 ft (28.65 m)

Interior dimensions:
Length: 71 ft (21.64 m)
Width: 124 in (315 cm)
Height: 81 in (206 cm)

Maximum take-off weight: 120,000 lb (54,431.04 kg)

Cruising altitude: 35,000 ft (10,668 m)

Cruising speed: 520-580 mp/h (837-933 km/h)

Range: 2,500 miles (4,023 km) at Max. Takeoff Weight

Powerplant: Pratt & Whitney JTF10A-1 Fan Jet

Thrust per engine: 8,250 lbs (3,752 kg) Static Thrust

Wing configuration: 30 degree sweep-back with control & stabilizing systems similar to the DC-8. However, the Addition of high lift leading edge slats which would allow shorter take-off and landing distances.

Cockpit arrangement: Same as the DC-8.

Passenger configuration/capacity:
All First Class: 68 passengers in four abreast seating*
All Coach Class: 96 passengers in five abreast seating*
* Both configurations using Douglas "Palomar Unitized" seats, as in the DC-8, with the Passenger Service Units (light, air vent, flight attendant call button) located inside the seat next to each passenger, rather than above the seats.

Additional feature: A self-contained stairway at the forward entry door for quicker turn-around times.

Estimated price: $3 million US dollars

Source:
http://www.dc-8jet.com/dac-dc9-p2067-details.htm

Douglas Model 2086

Exterior dimensions:
Length: 100.3 ft (30.57 m)
Wingspan: 87.4 ft (26.64 m)

Maximum take-off weight: 77,000 lbs (34,927 kg)
Maximum landing weight: 73,350 lbs (33,271 kg)
Zero fuel weight: 60,000 lbs (27,216 kg)

Take-off runway length: 4,750 ft (1,448 m) with a full load of passengers

Cruising altitude: 35,000 ft (10,668 m)

Cruising speed: 560 mp/h (901 km/h)

Power plant: Pratt & Whitney JT8D-5 turbofan jet
Thrust per engine: 12,000 lbs (5,443 kgs) static thrust

Passenger configuration/capacity:
All First Class: 55 passengers in four abreast seating*
All Coach Class: 77 passengers in five abreast seating*
* Both configurations using conventional airline seats with Passenger Service Units (lights, air vents, flight attendant call button) located above the passenger, underneath the luggage rack (later replaced with luggage bins to store carry-on luggage).

Range: 500 miles (805 kilometers) with 77 passengers & baggage or up to 1,100 miles (1,770 kilometers) with 55 passengers & baggage.

Additional features:
* A self-contained stairway at the forward entry door for quicker turn-around times.

* A small baggage door located next to the forward entry door which utilized a pull-out style rack which passengers could place their carry-on baggage in as they boarded. This rack then slid back into the baggage compartment. At the destination it could be opened & pulled out for the passengers to pick-up their carry-on baggage upon deplaning. This feature was later dropped and the cargo/baggage area expanded instead.

* An Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) integrated into the airplane which would provide electrical and air pressure to start the engines rather than depend on ground electrical and air supply. This would speed up turn-around times.

* Aircraft was designed so it can easily be "stretched" for additional capacity & payload and therefore utilized as a future replacement for the Lockheed Constellations & Electras & Douglas DC-6s & DC-7s.

Estimated price: $3,100,000 US dollars

Source:
http://www.dc-8jet.com/dac-dc9-p2086-details.htm

Model of Douglas DC-9 prototype.

NOTE: Per circle-5, this model was an inside-joke.

Source:
http://www.art-aviation.com/galerie-Douglas.htm

Triton said:

Model of Douglas DC-9 prototype.

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A few of these DC-9-5 models were made as an inside joke for MDC execs. No such variant was ever studied. DC-9 prototype was Series 10.

circle-5 said:

Triton said:

Model of Douglas DC-9 prototype.

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A few of these DC-9-5 models were made as an inside joke for MDC execs. No such variant was ever studied. DC-9 prototype was Series 10.

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LOL! Thanks for the information, circle-5.

Hi,


here is the Douglas Model 2067,which was initial known as Project 2000 or Model 2000,
and the Model 2086.


Source; McDonnell Douglas DC-9 by Terry Waddington

Hi,


from my files,that's from the earliest Douglas DC-9 design ?.

hesham said:

from my files,that's from the earliest Douglas DC-9 design ?.

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No, the earliest "DC-9" design was the Model 1119 (see attachment).

Hi Skyblazer,


I said from earliest designs,not the earlier one of course,and here is the topic for
TS.1119;


http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12051.msg185377.html#msg185377

Here are pictures of Douglas DC-9 Development Concepts, which are featured in the French magazine Le Fana de l'Aviation, No.543, February 2015 on page 76.


Please notice, that the Douglas Model 1042 had 3 Nene jet engines inside the aft fuselage.

Cutaway Douglas DC-9 Early concepts, autor Aviagraphica an modified by Motocar

Motocar said:

Cutaway Douglas DC-9 Early concepts, autor Aviagraphica an modified by Motocar

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Very nice my dear Motocar.

Douglas DC-9 ?.

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19470811/10/2

I like the 2086 - basically an attractive 737

Hi,

http://www.boeingimages.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&VBID=2JRSN2PU5712WX#/SearchResult&VBID=2JRSN2PU5712WX&PN=1

Good Day All!

I have been looking thru late '50s/early '60s AvWeeks and enjoying a look into the past - amazing the variety of ads and the actual artwork of the day, let alone articles on projects that we know today never made it or were cancelled before production. The F-108, XB-70, P6M, F8U-3 and Regulus II are in this time frame and their demise is duly noted.

The drawing and data are for the Baby DC-8 (!), I mean Model 2067 DC-9 4 engine early proposal. A little larger drawing than what has previously been posted and the data matches well with Triton's post from Jun-6-2011.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

hesham said:

Douglas DC-9 ?.

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19470811/10/2

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DC-9 number was use twice. The first time was in 1947 : http://www.vignaud.org/Gestion_BD2/Avion.php?idavion=12879

patvig said:

DC-9 number was use twice. The first time was in 1947 : http://www.vignaud.org/Gestion_BD2/Avion.php?idavion=12879

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Actually, it was used more than twice. Here is a 4-turbojet, straight wing, swingtail DC-9 factory concept model from 1953. I'm almost certain there was a variant of the Douglas 1940 that was also designated "DC-9" around 1957, and so forth. It's a marketing distraction, like the Boeing 717 / MD-95 (except the original 717 was actually flown with the USAF ...)

Model from the Thomas Rosenqvist collection

Amazing,thank you my dear Mark and Circle-5.

Hi all and Happy New Years !

Many thanks my friend circle-5 !

She is a Douglas Model 13?? ( or Model 12??).

Hi,

From Air Pictorial 1959.

From Aeroplane 1959.

From American Aviation 1947.

hesham said:

From American Aviation 1947.

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Do you know the Model-Number?

Maveric said:

Do you know the Model-Number?

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Yes,Model-1119