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No, no prizes for guessing which company. I can hear the deep sigh of many of you "Oh no, not again ... !" . But no mercy, here is the list of all Morane-Saulnier designations I could find. At first I started with the MS.181, because this was the oldest type/the lowest designation number which still was used after WW II . But then I thought it to be a little selfish, so the list begins with Type A in the year 1912 now.
From the year 1926 onwards, until the development of the MS.1000, only 3-digit numbers were used, the first to digits designating the type, the last digit the version, so , if the last digit was “0”, it mostly was the prototype of a new type. It’s a pity, that this simple rule wasn’t used strictly throughout the wide range of a/c. For example, the MS.229 wasn’t a derivative of the 220 family, but a version of the 230 ! Two versions of the MS.225 got the numbers 275 and 278 and the one of the harshest example is the MS.530, which was a derivative of the MS.330 and we even have one designation used twice, the MS. 800 ! It seems, that around 1955 4-digit numbers were introduced for types with military applications only, as the pre-project to the MS.1500 still had the number MS.775 .. but the rare examples of the 900 series were intended for military use, too, although they were in fact derivatives of the civil MS.900 light transport. Since the merger with Sud-Aviation to form SOCATA in 1966, the old designations were dropped and replaced by better sounding names, e.g. the MS.897 Rallye Minerva later turned out as he Minerva 220GT.
If the above said is principally correct, there may well have been a lot of projects projects in the gaps between ! New land for unafraid explorers !
I would be very pleased to get any additions, although especially post-war types are most welcome ! And don’t worry, one day the Morane series will be finished and I’ll start with the next one !
;D
Type A 1912 single seater, shoulder wing small series
Type C 1913 single seater, shoulder wing small series
Type F 1913 single seater, shoulder wing small series
Type G 1913 twin seat, shoulder wing small series
Type H 1914 single seater, development of G small series
Type I development of N small series
Type K floatplane racer, monoplane
Type L 1913 twin seater, parasol series production
Type LA 1914 (?) development of L small series
Type M 1912 armoured monoplane
Type N 1914 single seater, shoulder wing small series
Type O 1914 single seater, development of G prototype
Type P 1916 twin seater, parasol series production
Type S 1915 4-seat, twin engined biplane prototype
Type T 1914 3-seat, twin engined biplane small series
Type TRK 1917 3-seat, twin engined triplane prototype
Type V development of N small series
Type BB 1915 twin seat biplane series production
Type BH 1916 development of BB series production
Type U single seater, shoulder wing prototype
Type V single seater, shoulder wing prototype
MoS.23 1916 Type AC, single seater, shoulder wing small series
Type AE twin seater, parasol wing prototype
MoS.27 1917 Type AI, single seater, parasol small series
MoS.28 1916 Type AF, single seater, biplane small series
Type AFH development of MoS.28, amphibian prototype
MoS.29 1918 development of MoS.27 small series
MoS.30 1916 twin seat development of MoS.27 small series
MoS.31 1918 Type AN, twin seat, biplane small series
Type ANL development of AN prototype
Type ANR development of AN prototype
Type ANS 1919 development of AN prototype
MS. 35 1915 Type AR twin seater, parasol wing series production
MS. 36 1917 Type AU, single seater, parasol small series
Type AV 1922 4-place parasol prototype
MS. 42 twin seat, biplane prototype
MS. 43 1922 development of MS. 42 series production
MS. 50 1924 single seater, parasol wing small series
MS. 51 1925 development of MS. 50 small series
MS. 53 1925 development of MS. 50 small series
MS. 56 development of MS. 50 small series
MS. 121 1926 single seater, parasol wing prototypes
MS. 129 1925 twin seat parasol small series
MS. 130 1927 development of MS. 129 series production
MS. 131 1927 development of MS. 130 prototype
MS. 132 1927 development of MS. 130 prototype
MS. 133 1927 development of MS. 130 prototype
MS. 134 1927 development of MS. 130 prototype
MS. 136 1927 development of MS. 130 prototype
MS. 137 development of MS. 138 small series
MS. 138 1927 development of MS. 35 series production
MS. 139 development of MS. 138 small series
MS. 140 twin seat, biplane prototype
MS. 141 development of MS. 140 prototype
MS. 147 1928 twin seat parasol small series
MS. 148 1928 development of MS. 147 prototype
MS. 149 1929 development of MS. 147 small series
MS. 152 1928 twin seat parasol small series
MS. 180 1928 single seater, parasol wing, sports/training series production
MS. 181 1929 development of MS.180 series production
MS. 185 1929 development of MS.180 series production
MS. 191 development of MS. 138 small series
MS. 200 modified MS.130 prototype
MS. 221 1928 development of MS.121 prototype
MS. 222 1928 development of MS.121 prototype
MS. 223 1930 development of MS.221 prototype
MS. 224 1930 development of MS.221 prototype
MS. 225 1932 parasol fighter series production
MS. 226 1933 carrier version of the MS.225 series production
MS. 227 1933 MS.225 as testbed for HS 12Xcrs engine prototype
MS. 229 1931 version of the MS.230 for swiss AF prototypes
MS. 230 parasol wing, training a/c series production
MS. 231 1931 modified MS.230 small series
MS. 232 1940 modified MS.230 prototype
MS. 233 modified MS.230 small series
MS. 234 modified MS.230 prototypes
MS. 235 1930 modified MS.230 prototype
MS. 236 1932 modified MS.230 for belgian AF small series
MS. 237 1934 modified MS.230 small series
From the year 1926 onwards, until the development of the MS.1000, only 3-digit numbers were used, the first to digits designating the type, the last digit the version, so , if the last digit was “0”, it mostly was the prototype of a new type. It’s a pity, that this simple rule wasn’t used strictly throughout the wide range of a/c. For example, the MS.229 wasn’t a derivative of the 220 family, but a version of the 230 ! Two versions of the MS.225 got the numbers 275 and 278 and the one of the harshest example is the MS.530, which was a derivative of the MS.330 and we even have one designation used twice, the MS. 800 ! It seems, that around 1955 4-digit numbers were introduced for types with military applications only, as the pre-project to the MS.1500 still had the number MS.775 .. but the rare examples of the 900 series were intended for military use, too, although they were in fact derivatives of the civil MS.900 light transport. Since the merger with Sud-Aviation to form SOCATA in 1966, the old designations were dropped and replaced by better sounding names, e.g. the MS.897 Rallye Minerva later turned out as he Minerva 220GT.
If the above said is principally correct, there may well have been a lot of projects projects in the gaps between ! New land for unafraid explorers !
I would be very pleased to get any additions, although especially post-war types are most welcome ! And don’t worry, one day the Morane series will be finished and I’ll start with the next one !
;D
Type A 1912 single seater, shoulder wing small series
Type C 1913 single seater, shoulder wing small series
Type F 1913 single seater, shoulder wing small series
Type G 1913 twin seat, shoulder wing small series
Type H 1914 single seater, development of G small series
Type I development of N small series
Type K floatplane racer, monoplane
Type L 1913 twin seater, parasol series production
Type LA 1914 (?) development of L small series
Type M 1912 armoured monoplane
Type N 1914 single seater, shoulder wing small series
Type O 1914 single seater, development of G prototype
Type P 1916 twin seater, parasol series production
Type S 1915 4-seat, twin engined biplane prototype
Type T 1914 3-seat, twin engined biplane small series
Type TRK 1917 3-seat, twin engined triplane prototype
Type V development of N small series
Type BB 1915 twin seat biplane series production
Type BH 1916 development of BB series production
Type U single seater, shoulder wing prototype
Type V single seater, shoulder wing prototype
MoS.23 1916 Type AC, single seater, shoulder wing small series
Type AE twin seater, parasol wing prototype
MoS.27 1917 Type AI, single seater, parasol small series
MoS.28 1916 Type AF, single seater, biplane small series
Type AFH development of MoS.28, amphibian prototype
MoS.29 1918 development of MoS.27 small series
MoS.30 1916 twin seat development of MoS.27 small series
MoS.31 1918 Type AN, twin seat, biplane small series
Type ANL development of AN prototype
Type ANR development of AN prototype
Type ANS 1919 development of AN prototype
MS. 35 1915 Type AR twin seater, parasol wing series production
MS. 36 1917 Type AU, single seater, parasol small series
Type AV 1922 4-place parasol prototype
MS. 42 twin seat, biplane prototype
MS. 43 1922 development of MS. 42 series production
MS. 50 1924 single seater, parasol wing small series
MS. 51 1925 development of MS. 50 small series
MS. 53 1925 development of MS. 50 small series
MS. 56 development of MS. 50 small series
MS. 121 1926 single seater, parasol wing prototypes
MS. 129 1925 twin seat parasol small series
MS. 130 1927 development of MS. 129 series production
MS. 131 1927 development of MS. 130 prototype
MS. 132 1927 development of MS. 130 prototype
MS. 133 1927 development of MS. 130 prototype
MS. 134 1927 development of MS. 130 prototype
MS. 136 1927 development of MS. 130 prototype
MS. 137 development of MS. 138 small series
MS. 138 1927 development of MS. 35 series production
MS. 139 development of MS. 138 small series
MS. 140 twin seat, biplane prototype
MS. 141 development of MS. 140 prototype
MS. 147 1928 twin seat parasol small series
MS. 148 1928 development of MS. 147 prototype
MS. 149 1929 development of MS. 147 small series
MS. 152 1928 twin seat parasol small series
MS. 180 1928 single seater, parasol wing, sports/training series production
MS. 181 1929 development of MS.180 series production
MS. 185 1929 development of MS.180 series production
MS. 191 development of MS. 138 small series
MS. 200 modified MS.130 prototype
MS. 221 1928 development of MS.121 prototype
MS. 222 1928 development of MS.121 prototype
MS. 223 1930 development of MS.221 prototype
MS. 224 1930 development of MS.221 prototype
MS. 225 1932 parasol fighter series production
MS. 226 1933 carrier version of the MS.225 series production
MS. 227 1933 MS.225 as testbed for HS 12Xcrs engine prototype
MS. 229 1931 version of the MS.230 for swiss AF prototypes
MS. 230 parasol wing, training a/c series production
MS. 231 1931 modified MS.230 small series
MS. 232 1940 modified MS.230 prototype
MS. 233 modified MS.230 small series
MS. 234 modified MS.230 prototypes
MS. 235 1930 modified MS.230 prototype
MS. 236 1932 modified MS.230 for belgian AF small series
MS. 237 1934 modified MS.230 small series