Heli-Russia 2009

Tomorrow is the day!

Picture is from Militaryphotos.net. First time I have seen a "six pack" of ATGM and I am curious at the sensor just forward of the wind screen by the pitot tube.

Let's see...

Kamov "Hokum" seems to be condemned to an never ending development state.

A little bit of patience, Al

flateric said:

A little bit of patience, Al

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LOL, I'll be surfin' the web first thing. I will do my best.

yasotay said:

I am curious at the sensor just forward of the wind screen by the pitot tube.

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It looks like a laser detection sensor or a radar sensor from the helicopter's Electronic Warfare System.

check these so far http://www.aviaport.ru/images/archive/50/
me will be there tomorrow

You can find further detailed photos here:
http://pilot.strizhi.info/2009/05/21/6676

oh, we have a bunch of 'em around

us with Muxel, walking along:

- what do you think this stuff is?
- obviously, kind of some warning reciever
- exactly...

old guy, floating around Ka-52:

- ...and I know what is it! it's our stuff, we did make it...but will not tell you
- well, sir, we just guess this is RWR, yes?
(smiling) kind of WR, yes! but I will not tell you

Alligator's six-pack claws and claws' accessories

Ka-52 pilot showing another VIPs whereabouts of cockpit. Yes, exactly this inconspicuous old man in grey jacket has landed Ka-52 two days ago at exibition center parking lot

Helicopters of Russia stand - video presentation (the only place we could see Mil' MRVK UCARski this year)

Vadim Mikheev, HoR spokesman and famous aviation writer, making tour for another guests near Mi-38 model. Of course, Chinese smart guys are here all around till the morning.

HoR presentation on high-speed rotorcraft
Should we expect something new except old good Ka-92 and Mi-X1?

There are TWO helicopters. But HoR Helicopters Division should choose one from them ... or make a combo of 8 and 15 tons machines ... anyway, funds aren't yet.

These two man - Principal Designer Mikheev and Mil' Chief Designer Nikolay Pasvlenko - are concerned about future of their childrens, that can be seen in reaction to HoR Helicopters Division Chief Kozyrev speech.

flateric said:

oh, we have a bunch of 'em around

us with Muxel, walking along:

- what do you think this stuff is?
- obviously, kind of some warning reciever
- exactly...

old guy, floating around Ka-52:

- ...and I know what is it! it's our stuff, we did make it...but will not tell you
- well, sir, we just guess this is RWR, yes?
(smiling) kind of WR, yes! but I will not tell you

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Well, it's probably not a LWR, still seems to have the venerable L-140 Otklik for that purpose. I'd say the larger sensors belong to a MAWS (perhaps not installed yet) while the smaller ones are RWR antennas. And the old bloke's comments do indicate that it's not a jammer, which would be one of not that many other possibilities

flateric said:

HoR presentation on high-speed rotorcraft
Should we expect something new except old good Ka-92 and Mi-X1?

There are TWO helicopters. But HoR Helicopters Division should choose one from them ... or make a combo of 8 and 15 tons machines ... anyway, funds aren't yet.

These two man - Principal Designer Mikheev and Mil' Chief Designer Nikolay Pasvlenko - are concerned about future of their childrens, that can be seen in reaction to HoR Helicopters Division Chief Kozyrev speech.

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I expect we will see some of the same expressions on the faces of helicopter executives next week at the American Helicopter Society meeting.

Fantastic pictures of Ka-52!

KumAPP/KB Polyot Korshun (Kite) helicopter UAV - transport version that brings me memories of 4077th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital episodes.
Armed version model was shown for a fraction of a moment at stand at the exibition opening, but was removed by Helicopters of Russia security guys - stuff looking possibly as secret as supermarket cart

Ka-92 is here in its beauty

...as well as Mi-X1

Mi-60 MAI, Barbie is included

H&K Inspector-S UUV scale test article - did you see underwater chopper lately?

Wow! The only short philosophy debate if that kind of design is possible we had here: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,703.30.html but to see the hardware... just wow!

HeliRussia 2009 ShowObserver issues (with English text as well)
http://www.ato.ru/rus/files/helirussia2009/ShowHeliRus2009_1.pdf
http://www.ato.ru/rus/files/helirussia2009/ShowHeliRus2009_2.pdf

First ever high-speed rotorcrafts ad from Helicopters of Russia (project got official designation PSV Perspektivny Skorostnoy Vertolyot - Perspective High-Speed Helicopter). Slogan says 'Our Answer to President's Program' (tiny effort to earn some Gov's money I guess)

And nice caricature on the cover of World Airshows that should symbolize end of 'Hokum vs. Havoc' case for Russian Army as both choppers should go in serial production

Gregory,

Looks like I am going to have to did up some more Comanche material to repay your generosity.

A couple of thoughts;

The rotor system on the Ka-92 model...and realizing it is a model, the rotors obviously have significantly more cord than most rotorcraft today. Also the spacing of the rotors is back down from the traditional Kamov separation, which leads me to believe that they are looking for significant increases in rigidity and/or active blade control. It really is a sharp looking helicopter.

If Mi-X1 becomes a reality, I suspect Russia will have a real competitor in the medium lift market that Augusta and Eurocopter are dominating. The ring tail is not an overly large technical challenge (having been demonstrated in the sixties), other than keeping the weight down I suspect.

No Ka-90 this year? First victim of the global economic down-turn or is it that everyone is focused on Ka-92??

Finally the greatest mystery of all to me, who decided that the Mi-28 got the "eye lashes" in the partnership picture?

From the "RussiaToday" Website:

New generation of flying machines to take to the skies

23 May, 2009, 09:21
At the second international helicopter exhibition in Russia, the country's top chopper manufacturers have announced ambitious plans: to challenge the airplane.
Ever since man reached for the skies, helicopters have faced this task – but have come off second-best.
Doing so now will require nothing less than revolutionizing design and breaking speed records.
This is necessary because despite such advantages as hovering or vertical take off and landing, choppers have always lagged behind – never matching planes for speed and range.
Even modern average helicopters can only cover a maximum of around five hundred kilometres – with top speeds of 350 km/h.
Russia has always been at the forefront of helicopter design. But the next step to create an ultra high-speed helicopter will need all the ingenuity and expertise Russia can muster.
Helicopter manufacturers are now hungry to go beyond these limits.
“Modern helicopters are throttled by the overhead rotor that gives height and speed at the same time. This physically limits the possible speed of the machine. We now propose that it should have a separate horizontal throttle. This should open many new opportunities,” the Mil helicopter factory’s Constructor General Nikolai Pavlenko says.
It's expected that the new design concept will allow the next breed of choppers break the 500km/h speed barrier with a range of around fifteen hundred kilometres.
But getting there – in engineering terms – will be no picnic. It's a huge challenge.
“In a nutshell we are speaking of a revolution in helicopter design – a new generation of chopper. This will require radical improvements in aerodynamics. Helicopters will need to be made of new materials and entirely new design schemes. But I think we are now ready for this task,” Kamov helicopter factory’s Constructor General, Sergey Mikheev says.
Manufacturers hope to solve these engineering challenges in the next 5 to 7 years. Their aim will be to provide serious competition to regional airliners.
“We are now consolidating the helicopter industry in Russia. This should help concentrate finances and human resources on the most important projects, just like the one we would like to present you today. It's the ultra high-speed helicopter,” Russian Helicopters CEO Andrei Shibitov says.