Morane-Saulnier MS 1000, MS 1010 and MS 1020 Jet Fighters

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A little info about two MS projects,

the Morane Saulnier MS-1010 was developed from MS-1000 for ADAV
and the MS-1020 was two seat trainer version of MS-1000,
does anyone know more ?.
 
"does anyone know more ?"

Nothing more, than Jean Cuny could tell us. The MS.1010 is described as a VTOL aircraft with
a heart-shaped wing. That it actually was a derivative of the MS.1000, I couldn't find, it's just
the designation, that leads to this conclusion and the fact, that the MS.1020 seems to have
been derived from the MS.1000 directly, just using a less powerful engine. But ... designations
can lead into the wrong direction !
Just as a pure speculation, a twin-seat MS.1000, maybe the MS.1020 ? ;D

NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, BUT ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION HIGHLY APPRECIATED !
 

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Although the name "Venus" associated to it is likely fictitious, the artwork is so beautiful that I felt it deserved a mention here:

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/208/e/2/venus_by_tonocram-d58siji.jpg
 
Indeed ! Has a kind of comic style to me, wouldn't be surprised, if Mick Tangy would
be just visible in the cockpit ! ;)

By the way, a correction with regards to the MS.1010: In "Morane Saulnier-Ses Avions, Ses Projets"
by Henri Lacaze, it isn't mentioned as a VTOL (ADAV) type, but as a two seat delty winged aircraft
with two engines, similar to the MS.1000, but with the intake located further aft under the wing.
 
For some reason, in his book, Cuny-san posted a three side view drawing of the intermediate design as a three side view drawing of the MS1000 fighter, not the final design. Therefore modelers and painters are creating models and drawings of the MS1000 fighter based on intermediate designs. It's very strange.
The final design expanded the area of the vertical tail stabilizer and added ventral fins.
Source : LES AVIONS DE COMBAT FRANCAIS 1944-1960, Ⅰ-CHASSE-ASSAUT, Jean CUNY.
 

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I imagine that MS1000 fighter final design looks like this drawing.
 

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That gothic wing would work great at fast airspeeds and shallow angles of attack, BUT would produce ridiculously large amounts of drag at the steep angles of attack needed for take-offs.
 
I can't show a whole drawings to MS 1010 & 1020 from Morane-Saulnier's book,but just
a profiles to them.
 

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