Hawker HS.141 VTOL airliner, HS.140 VTOL business jet

GTX · 10 May 2006

Hi folks,

Here are a couple of civilian VTOL concepts from Hawker Siddley.

First the nice little HS.140 business jet:

Then the larger HS.141 commuter airliner:

Don't have much information on them I'm afraid.

Regards,

Greg

raravia · 10 May 2006

Hi GTX

It´s difficult to see the HS.140 cut in two parts, maybe if you reduce the image help us to visualize completely.

Gracias, sorry for my english

raravia · 10 May 2006

now i know how to see it ;D

Sentinel Chicken · 10 May 2006

If you look in the book "Stuck on the Drawing Board", there's a prior design incarnation of the HS.141 that had a ogival delta wing and twin fins. Very futuristic looking and in some ways better looking than the final HS.141 iteration.

hesham · 1 October 2007

Hi,

the Hawker Siddeley Aviation Ltd. created that
new concept for VTOL light aircraft.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=BaE8AAAAEBAJ&dq=DOUGLAS+DESIGN+OF+AIRPLANE&num=100&jtp=1#PPP1,M1

hesham · 29 October 2007

Hi,

a great VTOL aircraft designed by L. Chinchester-Miles
for Hawker in 1972.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=dRU1AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=hawker+aircraft+limited+airplane&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=1&as_miny_ap=2007&as_maxm_ap=1&as_maxy_ap=2007&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=1&as_miny_is=2007&as_maxm_is=1&as_maxy_is=2007&num=100#PPA1,M1

Sentinel Chicken · 31 October 2007

That's the HS.141.

Barrington Bond · 10 May 2008

Jemiba · 10 May 2008

Ah, the HS.140 fan-lift communications aircraft, a really nice aircraft !
There was an issue of Scott's APR featuring this type, I think ...
A 3-view can be found in "Stuck On The Drawing Board".

overscan (PaulMM) · 25 May 2008

Some photos from the Midland Air Museum. If you're interested in British projects, this museum is a must see.

overscan (PaulMM) · 8 June 2008

Artist's impression, Aircraft Illustrated June 1970

Barrington Bond · 8 June 2008

BBC Tomorrow's World £2.10 or 42 Shillings

hesham · 16 March 2009

Hi,

From Air Enthusiasts Vol 1 ,I can't see well,there is many versions to the
Hawker HS.141,may be one of them had a double deck and the other was
AWACS,I can't identify.

Barrington Bond · 16 March 2009

AWACS?!

Looks like a diagram dealing with air circulation to me?

Regards,
Barry

Triton · 31 August 2009

Composite photograph of Hawker Siddeley HS.141 model flying over London.

Triton · 30 October 2009

"Latest Civilian V/STOL Aircraft Projects of Hawker Siddeley Aviation, Continuation from FR6/71" by TK Szlenkier, English translation of Flug Review International July 1971, NASA Technical Report, November 1, 1972.

The latest civilian V/STOL aircraft are examined. It is found that such aircraft are more economical and convenient in short air flights, require lower capital investments compared with other systems, and have less influence on the environment.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19730001307_1973001307.pdf

Unfortunately, the previous article must be ordered and is not available online from the NASA Technical Reports Server:

"Latest V/STOL Aircraft Projects of Hawker Siddeley Aviation" by TK Szlenkier

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=248295&id=2&as=false&or=false&qs=Ntt%3DHawker%2BSiddeley%26Ntk%3Dall%26Ntx%3Dmode%2Bmatchall%26Ns%3DHarvestDate%257c1%26N%3D0

Triton · 30 October 2009

Model of Hawker Siddeley HS.141 at de Havilland Aircraft Heritage Centre.

Link to higher resolution version of the attached image:
http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/photos/de_havilland_heritage/images/26586/hawker-siddeley-v-stol-airliner.jpg

Triton · 28 December 2009

Artist's impression (top) of Hawker Siddeley HS.141.

Model (bottom) of Hawker Siddeley HS.141.

Source: http://www.vtol.boom.ru/vtol/Hs-141/index.html

Rodimax · 4 January 2010

The Hs 140 and 141 were schemed in the 'Research & Future Projects Dept' at Hatfield headed by Derek Brown. The model with the ogival wing was the HS 133 I believe. I don't remember the twin fins but a powered wind tunnel model existed using small Dowty fans (about 3").

Charles Bradbury's HS 140 was schemed by David Kent. The wind tunnel model used the same 6" fan that was used in the HS 141 model (x16). David Kent later worked on Ian C-Miles' business jet ('Leopard' I think) post HS.

The large scale HS 141 wind tunnel model was developed by John Holmes-Walker who ran the powerplant group within the office. Major parts of the model were manufactured at HS Brough in the model shop. If you are interested, more later.

overscan (PaulMM) · 4 January 2010

Thanks for the info, we would definitely be keen to know more.

Rodimax · 7 January 2010

As mentioned in Teddy Szlenkier's paper on V/STOL research, several test rigs were used for HS 141 research. Initially, a thrust deflection rig was used to identify nozzle shapes and develop suitable thrust deflectors. A 12" (30cm) fan was developed for noise research and larger scale flow research and a 6" fan was obtained to assess its suitability for the large scale HS 141 wind tunnel model. Other test rigs were run but I am only aware of them and have no details.

The 12" fans were developed by David Budworth Engineering of Harwich. The HS project engineer responsible was Robin Boning. Budworth was absorbed into Noel Penny Turbines which is now defunct. To get some 'real' information on the effects of lift fans it was proposed to use a modified Folland Gnat with the fans mounted at the wing root trailing edge as in the HS 147 STOL scheme. These were to be tip turbine driven Budworth type fans powered by pod mounted gas generators on the wing. Considerable design work was done on this but it did not get the go ahead.

hesham · 17 May 2010

Here is a three variants for Hawker HS.141;

first HS.141-16 with 16 lift fans.
second HS.141-12 with 12 lift fans.
third HS.141-8 with 8 lift fans and two rear mounted engines.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19730004285_1973004285.pdf

Mike Pryce · 15 December 2011

HS.141 wind tunnel models in Hatfield 15ft V/STOL tunnel. From http://www.airfieldinformationexchange.org/community/showthread.php?795-Wind-Tunnel-Models

Rodimax · 5 January 2012

I don't think the photos are of the Hatfield 15 ft. tunnel. If not Hatfield it is likely to be the NRCC tunnel in Ottawa, Canada.

hesham · 28 October 2012

hesham said:
Here is a three variants for Hawker HS.141;

first HS.141-16 with 16 lift fans.
second HS.141-12 with 12 lift fans.
third HS.141-8 with 8 lift fans and two rear mounted engines.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19730004285_1973004285.pdf

Also here is the hawker HS.141-4,HS.141-6 and HS.141-8 variants;

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19730001307_1973001307.pdf

Spook · 6 December 2012

Stargazer2006..

Here is the photo

Stargazer · 6 December 2012

Thanks Ardavan. Any idea what that thing is, anyone?

Spook · 8 December 2012

Thanks a lot Guyz.... Very informative and great pictures... I just love this forum

)

Thanks to you Stargazer2006 as well

~AK

hesham · 20 October 2013

Hi,

I repeat displaying the drawings in Reply 12,with more clearance.

uk 75 · 12 November 2013

Could someone help me with the little HS 140 bus jet? I have the cutaway from this thread and also the line drawings from the patent but cannot find the dimensions anywhere. Could anyone with the Reference Book on British civil projects (I cannot find my copy) post them.

I am thinking of adding to my collection of what-if models with a model of the HS-140 in RAF Air Support Command colours as a Beagle Basset replacement.

Jemiba · 12 November 2013

From Richard Payne "Stuck on the drawing board":
HS 140: length 33 ft 3 in, span 22 ft, height 10 ft 1 1 in

Good success for your model !

uk 75 · 13 November 2013

Jemiba

Thanks for this info. I will have to find my copy!

I will post pics of my model, if it gets made, on the Models thread next year (they take 6 months to make in the Philippines). I have a VC 10 Superb (BOAC), an HS 141 (BEA Union Flag) and an HS 134 (BEA Red Square) being made for me from Aviation Retail Direct in Hillingdon. I might post on the models thread when they are done though the moderators dont seem to to like "own fictional" models.

overscan (PaulMM) · 6 May 2014

From a Facebook post https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152401391904204&set=oa.10152396340184784&type=1&theater

hesham · 6 May 2014

Great find my dear Paul.

zebedee · 11 July 2014

Overhead shot of the models in the Midland Air Museum...

Hawker Siddeley HS.141 Models by InfinitePlanes, on Flickr
Zeb

c460 · 22 January 2015

Model of the HS.141 exhibited at Le Bourget 1971, from Aviation Magazine 565.

hesham · 15 May 2017

Air Enthusiast.

Mike Pryce · 15 June 2018

An interesting paper from https://dspace-erf.nlr.nl/xmlui/bit...1/2086/ERF 1975-07.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

Mark Nankivil · 15 June 2018

Nice find - thanks! Mark

RAP · 6 June 2019

1970 AWST article.

Hawker HS.141 VTOL airliner, HS.140 VTOL business jet

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