Some interesting TzAGI WT models

flateric · 26 October 2007

You surely have seen some of these screenshots at Paralay site - here they go in better quality and in enriched list.
All stuff goes from Russian RTR channel 2002 documentary entitled 'The Fifth Generation' so you must set timeframe in 2001-2002. Enjoy.

This is well-known Big-Eared something...YF-22ski? Very early PAK-FA? Hell, I dunno. Note F-14 style canopy windshield.

flateric · 26 October 2007

Sukhoi S-22

flateric · 26 October 2007

Some unidentified models, apparently one with canards is MFI-related...something very strange with the wings of one of them (cruise missile? uav?)shown from the front side only...arch wing or supersonic biplane - call it as you like to.

flateric · 26 October 2007

Spiritsky...

flateric · 26 October 2007

Isn't it that magic MIRV stuff that should overcome every ABM system in the world?

overscan (PaulMM) · 27 October 2007

Excellent quality captures there. Thanks!

fightingirish · 27 October 2007

Isn't it that magic MIRV stuff that should overcome every ABM system in the world?

If it is maneuverable , then it should be called MARV (Maneuverable Reentry Vehicle).

LowObservable · 27 October 2007

Fascinating - that certainly looks like AMaRV to me.

hs1216 · 27 October 2007

the model in image-36 looks like a f-18 with a mig product 33 style chin intake.

Sundog · 27 October 2007

Are you sure the Spiritsky isn't an Avengerski?

It looks more like a twin engined aircraft with a tandem cockpit to me, but being a wind tunnel model, who really knows? Tell them to paint more detail on it on it next time!

Great pictures, though. It's interesting to see some of the variations of wind tunnel models they've tried.

elider · 27 October 2007

Wow! Hugs from Ohio Flateric. I thoroughly enjoyed your outstanding caps.

flateric · 27 October 2007

Sundog said:
Are you sure the Spiritsky isn't an Avengerski?

It looks more like a twin engined aircraft with a tandem cockpit to me, but being a wind tunnel model, who really knows?

On some reasons I'm not willing to disclose, I'm sure that it's not Avengersky.
Some logic can draw you to the same conclusion - look at the wing taper and include the fact that Soviet aircraft carriers were never supposed to perform strike operations at the land. They were designed as giant Air Defense Ships (ADS). Anyway, even if this role to be widened, navalized Frogfoots (and, in some not well-healed brains, Fencers) would perform as carrier's strike wing. Already then it was clear that we just have no money for dedicated Navy tactical aircraft program.

overscan (PaulMM) · 27 October 2007

The Sukhoi FSW model dates back to at least 1993/4 period, when it was seen by visitors (French journalists seems to spring to mind) and formed the basis of early S-32 artists impressions.

Trident · 27 October 2007

hs1216 said:
the model in image-36 looks like a f-18 with a mig product 33 style chin intake.

It sure does - an E-model to be exact!

Thanks flateric for posting those, the MARV is quite interesting in that it uses aerodynamic flaps for control, like US designs. Earlier Soviet era MARV tests were based on pressure-fed divert engines according to Mark Wade.

overscan (PaulMM) · 27 October 2007

Image037 shows a Routenflugel-style joined wing design on the left.

lantinian · 2 November 2007

Great Pics Flateric,

Look who else did not miss to notice them

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blog...79a7Post:c9107a76-17b0-4be8-a8cc-61fd6c5939c3

lantinian

Sundog · 3 November 2007

FYI, When I said Avengerski, I wasn't alluding to a Naval strike fighter, just a stealthy attack aircraft that is in the F-111 class as opposed to the B-2 class. Don't forget, a version of the A-12, with the exhausts on the top instead of the bottom was supposed to replace the F-111, just as a Navalized ATF was to replace the F-14.

flateric · 13 April 2008

Full-length original documentary courtesy Zvezda channel. Enjoy!

http://zvezdanews.ru/docfilm/2008/04/12/oruzhie-rossii-pyato

flateric · 25 May 2008

I may be wrong, but it looks like Sukhoi SSBJ WT model...or Tuplev SSBJ...or not...both always were a double delta, while this one is triple delta

flateric · 14 November 2013

Yildirim said:
the model in image-36 looks like a f-18 with a mig product 33 style chin intake.

It was called "Model 18'. There were also - surprise - Model 15 and Model 16)))

flateric · 14 November 2013

flateric said:
This is well-known Big-Eared something...YF-22ski? Very early PAK-FA? Hell, I dunno. Note F-14 style canopy windshield.

Some parts of this model like nose, canopy and tail section with empennage definitely have roots from so-called TsAGI 'thematic model' dubbed 'Minoga' (Lamprey), dated back in early 90s.

hesham · 23 October 2015

Hi,

also the Sukhoi S-22 Model.

Виртуальные Украинские Соколы

www.ukrfalcons.com

flateric · 23 October 2015

hesham said:
Hi,
also the Sukhoi S-22 Model.

THIS IS NOT 'SUKHOI S-22'

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,22111.msg222401.html#msg222401

hesham · 23 October 2015

flateric said:
THIS IS NOT 'SUKHOI S-22'
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,22111.msg222401.html#msg222401

OK my dear Flateric.

hesham · 1 November 2015

From Kryl'ya Rodine 2015-04/05,

here is unknwon Model for a canard fighter project,maybe with delta wing,who
can ID it ?.

Rhinocrates · 1 November 2015

Reminds me of this study by General Dynamics of a "MiG 2000" - a purely speculative project. I think we've seen a F-22 type model that was attributed to a reverse engineering study by TzAGI, so might this be something similar? What's the date of these images? It would be ironic if TzAGI saw the American study of a hypothetical Russian project and thought they could glean something about American thinking on advanced aircraft design.

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