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A preview of issue V1N3 of Aerospace Projects Review. The original version had an article on a single one of these BWB designs... the revised issue describes the lot of 'em.

And yes, they are to scale. One of these design is obviously... kinda big.

http://www.up-ship.com
 

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Orionblamblam said:
Yup! VTOL, as well. Lockheed sometimes thinks big and nutty.
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VTOL? Like take-off in a day? :p
A 747 weights about 60 metric tons, this would be like a 1000-2000 metric tons (if not more)
The runway would be gigantic in length ( and width)
They could make a runway on top of this thing for other planes to take-off from :p
Nice to have such ideas :D
 
BAROBA said:
Orionblamblam said:
Yup! VTOL, as well. Lockheed sometimes thinks big and nutty.
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VTOL? Like take-off in a day? :p
A 747 weights about 60 metric tons, this would be like a 1000-2000 metric tons (if not more)
The runway would be gigantic in length ( and width)
They could make a runway on top of this thing for other planes to take-off from :p
Nice to have such ideas :D
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Version I saw was a seaplane as I recall. As for using runways all you need is enough wheels to get the ground pressure down (see the Pelikan for example) and a wingloading to make the takeoff distance reasonable. It's not rocket science.
 
BAROBA said:
A 747 weights about 60 metric tons, this would be like a 1000-2000 metric tons (if not more)
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5386 metric tons, actually.

The runway would be gigantic in length ( and width)
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And hense the hundred and fifty or so lift jets for VTOL operations.

They could make a runway on top of this thing for other planes to take-off from
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Interesting you should say that. See the little fighter-sized craft near the port side of the nose? Well... guess where it and 23 of its closest friends were meant to operate from...
 
There's a picture around on this site of one in flight with four KC-135s DOCKED to the trailing edge. :eek:
 
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,387.0.html
 
Orionblamblam said:
sferrin said:
Version I saw was a seaplane as I recall.
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The great little book "Future Fighters" has a Lockheed painting of this critter. The books author speculates that it was to be a seaplane, but it was strictly land-based.
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First place I saw it back in grade school. ;)
 
sferrin said:
First place I saw it back in grade school. ;)
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Jr. High for me. While the '40's and '50's were the Golden Age of "projects," I think the '80s was the Godlen Age of Current Projects Publications. The books published back then were jam-packed with quality artists impressions of what was on the planning boards. Today there are *far* more bits of art available... but most of it is computer generated crap.

Something I've noticed is that as PowerPoint and similar desktop publishing programs became available, the quality of presentations has gone *down.* In the 1960s, if you had a presentation for the USAF on, say, your neato new fighter design, you had the art department put together a package of drawings and paintings. Today you cobble together some MS Paint sketches yourself. Bah.
 
The 80s were the years you could go down to Waldenbook almost every weekend and pickup a new book or two by Salamander Publishing and others. :'(
 
Orionblamblam said:
sferrin said:
First place I saw it back in grade school. ;)
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Jr. High for me. While the '40's and '50's were the Golden Age of "projects," I think the '80s was the Godlen Age of Current Projects Publications. The books published back then were jam-packed with quality artists impressions of what was on the planning boards. Today there are *far* more bits of art available... but most of it is computer generated crap.

Something I've noticed is that as PowerPoint and similar desktop publishing programs became available, the quality of presentations has gone *down.* In the 1960s, if you had a presentation for the USAF on, say, your neato new fighter design, you had the art department put together a package of drawings and paintings. Today you cobble together some MS Paint sketches yourself. Bah.
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*snicker* I've seen at least one humorous piece floating around work that purportedly describes a MSPE (Masters of Science Degree in Powerpoint Engineering) program. Given all the presentations we required to produc on occassion, it sometimes feels all too true.
 
"VTOL? Like take-off in a day? "

Found this tiny little concept in Icare from 1971 :
Nuclear powered and 150m span ... ;D
 

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elmayerle said:
Orionblamblam said:
sferrin said:
First place I saw it back in grade school. ;)
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Jr. High for me. While the '40's and '50's were the Golden Age of "projects," I think the '80s was the Godlen Age of Current Projects Publications. The books published back then were jam-packed with quality artists impressions of what was on the planning boards. Today there are *far* more bits of art available... but most of it is computer generated crap.

Something I've noticed is that as PowerPoint and similar desktop publishing programs became available, the quality of presentations has gone *down.* In the 1960s, if you had a presentation for the USAF on, say, your neato new fighter design, you had the art department put together a package of drawings and paintings. Today you cobble together some MS Paint sketches yourself. Bah.
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*snicker* I've seen at least one humorous piece floating around work that purportedly describes a MSPE (Masters of Science Degree in Powerpoint Engineering) program. Given all the presentations we required to produc on occassion, it sometimes feels all too true.
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I've heard some of the military folk referred to as "Powerpoint Warriors" :D
 
while googling for something else, i found this,

http://www.aoe.vt.edu/~mason/Mason_f/AIAA2003-6732.pdf

cheers,
Robin.
 
Hi,

from NASA,the BWB extension for shielding.
 

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sferrin said:
Orionblamblam said:
sferrin said:
Version I saw was a seaplane as I recall.
Click to expand...

The great little book "Future Fighters" has a Lockheed painting of this critter. The books author speculates that it was to be a seaplane, but it was strictly land-based.
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First place I saw it back in grade school. ;)
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I've got it on my bedside table now. ;D Found a copy on Amazon and bought it for myself this past Christmas.
 
Don't want to go too OT, but Bill Gunston's above mentioned 'Warplanes of the future' and the similar 'Future Fighters and Combat Aircraft' were outstanding references. That was almost 20 years ago (the X-29 hadn't flown yet!). Is it me or there hasn't been anything comparable since (quality-wise)?
 
Hi,

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20080021214_2008019933.pdf
 

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Hi,

Airbus (Aerospatiale ) BWB;
http://aero.stanford.edu/bwbfiles/AerospatialeBWB.html
 

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Hi,

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20080005538_2008003855.pdf
 

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Technologies For Subsonic Transport by R.H. Leibeck
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i can't get the link to this to work, i get redirected to the homepage, tried searching on the site but no joy, :'(

cheers,
Robin.
 
Hi,

http://mikesnead.net/resources/cat/tech_paper_configurable_air_transport.pdf
 

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Jemiba,

That 150 meter span VTOL vehicle is impressive. It actually reminds me a little bit of this airplane in this videogame... I think it was one of the Ace Combat (I saw vids on Youtube awhile ago IIRC) series. That vehicle however took off of water though in the regular old fashioned horizontal mode.


KJ
 
KJ_Lesnick said:
Jemiba,

That 150 meter span VTOL vehicle is impressive. It actually reminds me a little bit of this airplane in this videogame... I think it was one of the Ace Combat (I saw vids on Youtube awhile ago IIRC) series. That vehicle however took off of water though in the regular old fashioned horizontal mode.


KJ
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Was it Ace Combat 6 with the Estovakian Aerial Fleet consisting of the P-1112 Aigaion Flying Aircraft Carrier, & the escorts P-1113 & P-1114? Or was it Ace Combat Zero with the Belkan XB-0?
 
Was it Ace Combat 6 with the Estovakian Aerial Fleet consisting of the P-1112 Aigaion Flying Aircraft Carrier, & the escorts P-1113 & P-1114? Or was it Ace Combat Zero with the Belkan XB-0?
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Estovakian?, those names are really ridiculous. Who is the creator? :mad:
 
Hi,

http://www.mh-aerotools.de/company/paper_9/global_transport_aircraft.htm
 

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Hi,

http://www.thewebsiteattheendoftheuniverse.net/myphotos19/cjp_19094.jpg
 

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Hi,

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20090012115_2009011369.pdf
 

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hesham said:
Hi,

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19960023625_1996039480.pdf
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From the same source;
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19960023625_1996039480.pdf
 

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hesham said:
Hi,

Airbus (Aerospatiale ) BWB;
http://aero.stanford.edu/bwbfiles/AerospatialeBWB.html
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Hi,

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1999/1999%20-%203397.html
 

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