Messerschmitt Bf 165

elmayerle,There's very little published about this Bf 165
In "Willy Messerschmitt-Pionier der Luftfahrt und des Leichtbaues" Bernard & Graefe Verlag page 206 there is a sketch
and it is said than a 100 000 RM 100% mock up was built and shown to the Führer
It has nothing to do with Bf 161,Bf 162 derivatives of Bf 110 or Me 261
 
richard said:
elmayerle,There's very little published about this Bf 165
In "Willy Messerschmitt-Pionier der Luftfahrt und des Leichtbaues" Bernard & Graefe Verlag page 206 there is a sketch
and it is said than a 100 000 RM 100% mock up was built and shown to the Führer
It has nothing to do with Bf 161,Bf 162 derivatives of Bf 110 or Me 261
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Looking at references at home rather than relying on memory, I agree. I've got the English-language version of that book and the fuselage of that bomber reminds me of a scale-up of the Hampden fuselage. ;)
 
Richard, can you show us the drawing of the Messerschmitt Bf 165
published in the Bernard & Graefe book.
Thanks in advance..
 
hesham said:
Hi,

we speak enough in the Luftwaffe projects topic,but I still have unknown projects
and aircraft,not for Luftwaffe only but it was also before 1933,so I open this topic
to refresh the subject.
in Internet I found some projects and I hope we can identify them,for example
Casper SJ was a floatplane fighter project,
did you know Messerschmitt Me.165,Me.320 and Me.368 ?.
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From "Die deutsche luftfhart Willy Messerschmitt-Pionier der Luftfahrt und des Leichtbaues" Bernard & Graefe Verlag
 

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"did you know Messerschmitt Me.165"

Based on the infos and drawings from the book shown by Justo, I tried to make
a reconstruction of the Bf.165, see below.
To those, who want to know more about the "why" of certain details, I can send
a short summary. As always the warning : HIGHLY SPECULATIVE !
 

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Thanks a lot Jemiba !

Speculative ,indeed ,but no more than a lot of german 45/6 "projects" "

I wonder what you could do for the Fi 168 ?

Greetings

Richard
 
Jemiba said:
"did you know Messerschmitt Me.165"

Based on the infos and drawings from the book shown by Justo, I tried to make
a reconstruction of the Bf.165, see below.
To those, who want to know more about the "why" of certain details, I can send
a short summary. As always the warning : HIGHLY SPECULATIVE !
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but there are technical data about Me.165 ?
The year of project ?
 
airman said:
Jemiba said:
"did you know Messerschmitt Me.165"

Based on the infos and drawings from the book shown by Justo, I tried to make
a reconstruction of the Bf.165, see below.
To those, who want to know more about the "why" of certain details, I can send
a short summary. As always the warning : HIGHLY SPECULATIVE !
Click to expand...
but there are technical data about Me.165 ?
The year of project ?
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I believe it was from 1937.

Regards,

Greg
 
"but there are technical data about Me.165 ? The year of project ?"

Windtunneltesting was done in 1937, as well as the construction of a mock-up.
This was presented to high ranking RLM members and Hitler, with some estimated
data, as range of 6000 km with 1000 kg bombload and a maximum speed of 600 km/h.
(from the before mentioned bok)
 
The words "colour profile" and "project" generally can only mean "highly speculative", but as
we already have several such cases, I thought this one better placed here, than in a new
thread in another section. ;)
We had the Bf 165 here http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,17113.msg28603.html#msg28603
and in some following posts. I just wanted to do a German pre-war paint scheme and
thought it to be a suitable object.
 

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I accidentally found the Wiki article about the Bf 165, containing a photo
of the Bf 165 mock-up ! Or at least, it is said to be one. Quality is low and
it looks, as it has been somehow doctored. But perhaps, someone knows,
where it comes from, as the source isn't mentioned. Or can say for sure,that
it is just a fake.

(photo via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Bf_165 )
 

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Unfortunately, that photo is a fake. Here is the unaltered one (Henschel Hs 127):

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Regards.
 
Correct. The plane is often labelled on several
websites as the Messerschmitt 'Banana Bomber'
and they used sometimes the 3 view once made by Jemiba
with it ...
 
Thank you for identifying the source of that "photo", looked somehow familiar
to me, but I didn't get, what it was.
Just a suspicion, but the "artist" may be a former member of the SPF ? I found his
name on one of the sites mentioned by lark ... ::)
Is it worth pointing Wikipedia to that fake ?
 
Jemiba said:
Thank you for identifying the source of that "photo", looked somehow familiar
to me, but I didn't get, what it was.
Just a suspicion, but the "artist" may be a former member of the SPF ? I found his
name on one of the sites mentioned by lark ... ::)
Is it worth pointing Wikipedia to that fake ?
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I updated the Bf 165 article at Wikipedia last year because the image was fake.
 
Vahe Demirjian said:
Jemiba said:
Thank you for identifying the source of that "photo", looked somehow familiar
to me, but I didn't get, what it was.
Just a suspicion, but the "artist" may be a former member of the SPF ? I found his
name on one of the sites mentioned by lark ... ::)
Is it worth pointing Wikipedia to that fake ?
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I updated the Bf 165 article at Wikipedia last year because the image was fake.
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Oh, Wikipedia!
 

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