Meindl-van Nes M.15/A.XV from Austria

hesham · 27 February 2007

Hi,

there is unknown aircraft I found it,it was from Austria,
any informations.

Maveric · 27 February 2007

Hi,

you see the Meindl-van Nes M.15/A.XV. First flight 23.09.1940, D-ECAB ( later became W.N.F. Wn.16 ). Power plant Salmson AD9 45PS.

Servus Maveric

hesham · 27 February 2007

Thank you Maveric,

And do you have a picture to M.7/A.VII three seat sporting aircraft.

hesham · 27 May 2011

Hi,

here is the Meindl/van Nes A-VII (M7),the floatplane version,this
was never built.

http://www.insigniamag.com/meind.html

Apophenia · 27 May 2011

For more on Meindl van Nes:
http://www.luftfahrt-archiv.at/Info4-84/Meindl-AVII.html

hesham · 28 May 2011

Apophenia said:
For more on Meindl van Nes:
http://www.luftfahrt-archiv.at/Info4-84/Meindl-AVII.html

Thank you my dear Apophenia,

and from the site you mentioned;

A VIII was a project,developed from A VII and powered by 40 hp Salmson
engine,and had estimated speed of 144 km/h.

Apophenia · 28 May 2011

Thanks Hesham, I'd meant to mention the A.VIII. The engine reference is obviously to the Salmson 9AD but the "29,4 kW (40 PS)" rating is odd. The 3 Litre 9AD is usually rated at 45 hp @ 2000 rpm.

BTW: Wilhelm van Nes went to work for Arado before being picked up as part of 'Project Paperclip'. Ob.-Ing. Erich Meindl went to WNF. Another view of the M-15 is attached.

Stargazer · 3 April 2013

Meindl M 150 « Schulmeister » twin-boom light aircraft

The Meindl M 150 Schulmeister ("school teacher") prototype of 1956 was a German development by Burgfalke-Segelflugzeugbau Burglengenfeld/Bayern of the earlier Meindl M 15.

Any additional information on this little-known type would be appreciated!

Cy-27 · 4 April 2013

The Meindl-van Nes A XV (M15)

The Project originated in cooperation Meindl and van Nes during 1937-38.

After the construction of the joint factory in in Wiener Neustadt. Construction started in January 1939. Meindl, was project manager of the ongoing construction. Maiden flight was on 23 September 1940, registration D-ECAB, by pilot Sylvester Wanneck.

This aeroplane type was the first front wheel machine in Germany (post-Anschluss, previously Austria).

Wiener Neustadt WNF Wn 16

Formerly called the Meindl-van Nes A XV, the design was designated the Wiener Neustadt WNF Wn 16 by the Germans in 1942.

It was built by hand and tested by the Flugprobung and joined some other new designs created with the then new nosewheel (eg Me 262, Ar234, He219) for evaluation.

Designers:

Ob-Ing. Erich Meindl born 22 December 1906 in Klagenfurt, died 29 February 1980 in Bochum.

Dipl-Eng Wilhelm van Nes born 26 September 1900 in Freiburg im Breisgau, died 13 May 1979 in Waldkirch (Freiburg im Breisgau)

Source:

Luftfahrzeugbau in Osterreich (Keimel) Aviatic Verlag, 2003 ISBN 3925505784

Stargazer · 4 April 2013

Thanks Cy-27! But it doesn't shed any light on how the project ended up in the form of the twin-boom M 150 prototype built in Germany...

Cy-27 · 4 April 2013

...further development of the Meindl van Nes after the war at Burgfalke-Flugzeugbau in Burglengenfeld bei Regensburg in Bavaria. This was the M.150. First flight 14 September 1957 with the registration D-EKOH. Intended as a training aircraft, with the nose wheel had the same characteristics as the contemporary larger commercial airliners. A second machine was to be built in Vienna in order of Dr Josef Lenz (under construction - not completed?).

No indication in the text of how the WNF Wn 16 ended up as the M.150.

Source:

Luftfahrzeugbau in Osterreich (Keimel) Aviatic Verlag, 2003 ISBN 3925505784

Stargazer · 4 April 2013

Thanks a lot for these precious elements, Cy-27.

richard · 4 April 2013

A little pictorial history :

1- 1940 : A XV / M 15 . 45 hp Salmson radial
2- 1942 : Wn 16 . 60 hp Walter Micron inline
3- 1948 : R-101 "Mehgbir" (project only) for the indian Meghdoot Aircraft Corp. in Calcutta . 130 hp Gipsy
4- 1956 : Burgfalke M-150 first project . 65 hp Continental or 75 hp Porsche
5- 1957 : Burgfalke M-150 "Schulmeister" 65 hp Continental

Sources : Reinhard Keimel "Luftfahrzeugbau in Österreich" (a must !!!);Der Flieger;Aviation Magazine.

hesham · 4 April 2013

Thank you my dears Richard and Cy-27 very much,

and for Wiener-Neustadt Wn-11 amphibian aircraft,it was developed from
Hopfner HA 11/33.

Stargazer · 23 September 2013

Thanks a lot richard for adding some flesh to the M 150 chronology!

hesham · 24 November 2013

Hi,

here is the Wn.11C twin engined amphibian aircraft project,which developed from
Wn.11,but fitted with two 240 hp Hirth HM 508 D engine.

Die Deutsche Luftruestung part 4.

hesham · 27 March 2014

My dear Richard,

do you have any info or drawings about Meindl-van M.100 and M.110 ?.

Maveric · 28 March 2014

Meindl R.100...

Maveric · 28 March 2014

Meindl R.101...

Maveric · 28 March 2014

hesham · 28 March 2014

Excellent my dear Maveric,

many thanks,and do you know any thing about M.110,I heard that it was
the basis for M.211,is that right ?.

richard · 28 March 2014

You are right: R-110 was the designation for Wimmer (Germany) , and M 211 for Meindl (Austria)

Here , the R-100 and the R-110 :

hesham · 28 March 2014

Oh my God,

many many thanks to you my dear Richard,and it is the first time to hear
about Heinkel 210.

hesham · 29 March 2014

My dear Richard,

but why the wrote it in a book about light aircraft, with "M" instead off "R",please see
this paragraph.

richard · 29 March 2014

This text seems to have been inspired by an article in "Der Flieger" of the seventies ,where the designation actually was R-100 and R-110 …In the recent book by Keimel about Meindl , the designation is R- too.

hesham · 29 March 2014

Thank you my dear Richard.

c460 · 16 April 2014

richard said:
In the recent book by Keimel about Meindl , the designation is R- too.

Hi Richard,
I'm curious, what book is that? Is it Luftfahrzeugbau in Österreich or another book specifically about Meindl?
Adrien

richard · 16 April 2014

Bonsoir , et à demain matin …

The book is a must , full of photos and good three views , with many unbuilt projects too …BUT ...I have only some copies from it :-[ .

Here it is :

Ob. Ing. Erich Meindl, Flugzeugbauer aus Osterreich. Ein Beitrag zu 200 Jahre Luftfahrt in Osterreich. (E. M., constructeur autrichien d'avions. Contribution à 200 années d'aviation en Autriche)

c460 · 17 April 2014

richard said:
Ob. Ing. Erich Meindl, Flugzeugbauer aus Osterreich. Ein Beitrag zu 200 Jahre Luftfahrt in Osterreich. (E. M., constructeur autrichien d'avions. Contribution à 200 années d'aviation en Autriche)

Thanks, interesting, and probably hard to find.
See you at the aerodrome.

Adrien

hesham · 3 April 2015

My dear Jemiba,

the source for Meindl aircraft and project is here,in reply # 27,please merge this topic
with anther one,and also please change the title here.

richard · 14 May 2016

Here the D-EMIS :

hesham · 9 November 2016

Hi,

I want to ask if Guritzer-Van-Nes A.I,A.II & A.III related to this company,I found
a drawing to Guritzer early aircraft,but I can't ID it ?.

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala%20d'Italia/L'ALA%20D'ITALIA%201927%2009.pdf

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2010/12/04/aircraft-production-in-austria/

hesham · 10 November 2016

hesham said:
I want to ask if Guritzer-Van-Nes A.I,A.II & A.III related to this company,I found
a drawing to Guritzer early aircraft,but I can't ID it ?.

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala%20d'Italia/L'ALA%20D'ITALIA%201927%2009.pdf

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2010/12/04/aircraft-production-in-austria/

If there was an earlier series,from A.I to A.VI,does anyone know it ?.

richard · 10 November 2016

The 3-views looks much like the Guritzer-van Nes A II (registration A30).
Guritzer crashed to death piloting it on the 28.9.1932 .
van Nes worked later with Meindl

hesham · 10 November 2016

hesham said:
If there was an earlier series,from A.I to A.VI,does anyone know it ?.

Thank you my dear Richard,but what about the other designs,A.I,A.IV,A.V and A.VI ?.

richard · 10 November 2016

A III was the Meindl-van Nes M3 , A VII : the M7 & M12 , A VIII : the M8 and A XV : the M15 .

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,24167.msg246467.html#msg246467

hesham · 10 November 2016

OK and thanks my dear Richrad.

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