Sandy22 said:About Cavalier MD.610/620/630 see this site: http://www.aiaa.org/tc/vstol/unbuilt/dassault/index.html
(I found it after Jemiba's post mentioning Cavalier ...)
On the other hand, I had some references quoting that the Israeli missile Jericho was based on a Dassault design (quoted as MD.620).
It's known that before WW.2 the aircraft designed by Marcel Bloch were numbered in a MB. series.
After the war, Marcel Bloch changed his surname to Dassault and, accordingly, new designs got the prefix MD., keeping the same numbering sequence (so I'm a little puzzled about MD.80 ...)
Ciao from Italy.
Ah, maybe you are too young to have known it, my friend. Good for you. :And, sorry for that, but "charre" means nothing in french (certainly not big hoax ???).
MD-620 was the basis for Jericho-1, and MD-660 for Jericho-2 and Shavit.hesham said:MD-660 was two-stage solid-propellent surface-to-surface bombardment missile,it had been developed by the Marcel Dassault under contract from the Israeli government,the beginning was in 1968.
The Jericho surface-to-surface weapon was given the designation MD-620.
Deltafan said:MD.1020 R (1946 : design, 2 x G&R 14R engines, transport)
Deltafan said:Another Dassault MD 600 designation from the end of the book Mirage III, tome 3 (Chenel, Moreau, Liébert), DTU 2008 (page 405). It's not MD.600 transport design, 4 x G&R 14R engines (1948-49).
Project from 1968 with one M53 or J79 engine (25 to 39% more power, 15 to 20% less consumption) :
-Mirage III frame but with integrated tanks (like the Mirage F1 and no more the flexible tanks of the Mirage III) : more kerosene
-Mirage F1 nose (to improve visibility for landing)
-10% more wing area (34,85 m² for the Mirage III => around 38,34 m² for MD 600)
-Wing with LERX (like the Mirage III V) for 5% more lift at high incidence
-canard considered but not selected
-flight control derivative of Mirage IV and Mirage III V, with two elevators for each wing
-empty weight : Mirage III E like (5915 kg for the III E)
-external load : 5 000 kg (4 000 kg for the III E)
-consolidated landing gear with two wheels in the front (like the Mirage F1)
-250 km more range than the III E at low altitude
Archibald said:All those goodies are pretty cool and would make for some amazing drawings - Mirage F1 nose, and twin wheels, LERX, and a bigger M53 exhaust.
Nice bird, really, another missing link on the way from the Mirage III to the Mirage 2000.
I think that, as we have MD, we have a number in the "real" MD serie (MD 117-33 or MD 107-33. We can see the designations at the bottom of the original drawings page 237 and 238) even if it has a "design" designation : the MD 117-33 was a YZ design.hesham said:By the way,
the designation MD 117-33 was a drawing number as I think in the book; French
Secret Projects : Post War Fighters,and was not in real MD series,am I right ?.
Deltafan said:Another Dassault MD 600 designation from the end of the book Mirage III, tome 3 (Chenel, Moreau, Liébert), DTU 2008 (page 405). It's not MD.600 transport design, 4 x G&R 14R engines (1948-49).
Project from 1968 with one M53 or J79 engine (25 to 39% more power, 15 to 20% less consumption) :
-Mirage III frame but with integrated tanks (like the Mirage F1 and no more the flexible tanks of the Mirage III) : more kerosene
-Mirage F1 nose (to improve visibility for landing)
-10% more wing area (34,85 m² for the Mirage III => around 38,34 m² for MD 600)
-Wing with LERX (like the Mirage III V) for 5% more lift at high incidence
-canard considered but not selected
-flight control derivative of Mirage IV and Mirage III V, with two elevators for each wing
-empty weight : Mirage III E like (5915 kg for the III E)
-external load : 5 000 kg (4 000 kg for the III E)
-consolidated landing gear with two wheels in the front (like the Mirage F1)
-250 km more range than the III E at low altitude