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xstatic3000 said:A faceted, radar-stealthy blackhawk derivative has been mentioned on the forum before.
Abraham Gubler said:Just rotating and lining up the left and right views of that tail rotor assembly with that of an Sikorsky S-70 (H-60) and their structural dimensions look very, very similar. It looks like an after market add on kit for the MH-60 to reduce signatures. Especially in audio. All that excessive streamlining would go a long way to reducing airflow noise. Obviously the highly different tail rotor would be for this objective as well. I also recall CWO Mike Durrant writing about how he worked on special A/MH-60 mods after Somalia in memoriam for CWO Cliff Wolcott (who did a lot of the early DAP work). So I doubt this is deep black Stealth Blimp stuff. Probably classified Secret but reasonably well known in the SOF community.
sealordlawrence said:Well I suppose there is "black" and then there is "black", perhaps this was just "black"? Not "black" enough to worry about?
I didnt see anybody here suggesting stealth blimp, alien derived technology or any other nonsense. :![]()
Oh Steve, turn those scanners down. They are making you hear things....xstatic3000 said:Although, I was secretly hoping, for Sublight's sake, that the Seals had in fact floated to the target area astride a black, triangular Stealth Blimp - with bright lights at each corner, of course.
xstatic3000 said:Although, I was secretly hoping, for Sublight's sake, that the Seals had in fact floated to the target area astride a black, triangular Stealth Blimp - with bright lights at each corner, of course.
xstatic3000 said:Well of course, almost everything concerning current SOF weapons, training and tactics is classified either Secret or Top Secret, so it shouldnt be surprising that they'd use specialized equipment to go after the world's highest value target and ensure mission success. And with the relatively minor loss of one of their birds, the mission was a resounding success.
xstatic3000 said:sealordlawrence said:Well I suppose there is "black" and then there is "black", perhaps this was just "black"? Not "black" enough to worry about?
I didnt see anybody here suggesting stealth blimp, alien derived technology or any other nonsense. :![]()
Well of course, almost everything concerning current SOF weapons, training and tactics is classified either Secret or Top Secret
sealordlawrence said:I didnt see anybody here suggesting stealth blimp, alien derived technology or any other nonsense. :![]()
LowObservable said:It's really a hoax so we don't realize that they used Nazi anti-gravity flying saucers from the base in Antarctica, where OBL can now share a deep-freeze with Hitler and Jacques de Molay.
sublight said:Whatever they call it, I think they'd better spill it quick. Once the 9/11 "truthers" get a hold of it, you know they are going to call the whole op fake...![]()
fightingirish said:Another humble prediction:
What happened to the prototypes of the VH-71A? Are they still stored away in a Hanger?
Maybe the CIA and/or US SOF's took over the few aircraft and modified them for these kind of operations.
3 engines, good range and speed...!
Stargazer2006 said:Have you seen the courtyard where these helos are supposed to have landed?? How can you fit two Apaches and two Chinooks in there? Doesn't seem to make much sense...
xstatic3000 said:Although, I was secretly hoping, for Sublight's sake, that the Seals had in fact floated to the target area astride a black, triangular Stealth Blimp - with bright lights at each corner, of course.
From what I know the only chopper on the ground was the one that made a hard landing - the others only hovered. -SPStargazer2006 said:Have you seen the courtyard where these helos are supposed to have landed?? How can you fit two Apaches and two Chinooks in there? Doesn't seem to make much sense...
XB-70 Guy said:From what I know the only chopper on the ground was the one that made a hard landing - the others only hovered. -SPStargazer2006 said:Have you seen the courtyard where these helos are supposed to have landed?? How can you fit two Apaches and two Chinooks in there? Doesn't seem to make much sense...
Stargazer2006 said:Oh, okay. Additional evidence, if need be, of how unreliable the media can be: French TV news tonight had a 3D animation clearly showing two choppers landing in the courtyard...
Grey Havoc said:There is some speculation over at the dark lair of our dire enemies, militaryphotos.net ( ;D ), that the bird that went down was actually a custom built close support bird, possibly around the size of the Kiowa. AFAIR, the 160th did have a small number a of a 'stealthy' version of the OH-58 (can't remember the exact designation at the moment) up to around the mid-90's (budget cuts), although that was apparently an infiltration and retrieval platform rather than armed support (no weaponry was normally fitted, IIRC). However, I believe that the general consensus over at our mortal foes is, for the moment, the same as over here, i.e. the crashed bird was a stealthy variant of, or a inflitration optimised design derived from, the Blackhawk.